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==[[Shalka Doctor]]==
Is this Doctor really non-canon or just from an alternate timeline? He's mentioned in [[TV]]: [[The Tomorrow Windows]]
[[User:Americanwhofan|Americanwhofan]] 23:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
==Proper title question==
==Proper title question==
I understand that "Tonight's the Night" is a BBC TV show, and not the title of the sketch... but do we have any idea if there is a proper title for the sketch?  --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 19:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I understand that "Tonight's the Night" is a BBC TV show, and not the title of the sketch... but do we have any idea if there is a proper title for the sketch?  --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 19:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
* I haven't been able to find any indication of a title. However if one is announced I certainly will support a move. I also wouldn't object, now I think about it, to this article being moved to [[Tonight's the Night Doctor Who Scene]] or some such. I was following the process used for the Sarah Jane Adventures Comic Relief sketch, which I believe was called Comic Relief until the skit's writer indicated its true title. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
* I haven't been able to find any indication of a title. However if one is announced I certainly will support a move. I also wouldn't object, now I think about it, to this article being moved to [[Tonight's the Night Doctor Who Scene]] or some such. I was following the process used for the Sarah Jane Adventures Comic Relief sketch, which I believe was called Comic Relief until the skit's writer indicated its true title. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Update: RTD refers to it as ''Tonight's the Night'' in DWM #410, so that's as official a title as I think we're going to get. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 16:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:No, he doesn't.  The exact quote from [[DWM 410]]'s production notes is:
::...my last words are written for that scene with Captain Jack and Sao Til, as part of John Barrowman's ''Tonight's the Night''.  Much as I love that show, it's hardly a way to commemorate my entire time on ''Doctor Who''!
:Note here that RTD uses italics around ''Tonight's the Night''.  Remember that we, as a community, for reasons I personally cannot defend, decided that we would italicize ''all'' story titles, so that we cannot actually tell the difference between a "long work" and a "short work".  In the real world of standard English grammar, as is observed by DWM, italics indicate the name of a television series, or a serial.  They absolutely do not indicate the name of a tiny sketch!  Besides, it's very clear from the context that RTD is not talking about the sketch, but the entire series ("John Barrowman's ''Tonight's the Night'').  Note, too that he avoids a title for the sketch, calling it only "that scene", a phrase which he repeats later in the article. By RTD's own pen, the program is called ''Tonight's the Night''; the scene is untitled. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}13:56: Wed&nbsp;04 Jan 2012&nbsp;</span>
:: Why is this still up in the [[air]]? It's been over a [[decade]], and [[people]] haven't come to a consensus of if this is [[Untitled (Tonight's the Night)|untitled]] or if it's called '[[Tonight's the Night (TV story)|Tonight's the Night]]' (I believe it to be untitled, myself). [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:23, 23 April 2022 (UTC)


==Why propose deletion?==
==Why propose deletion?==
As this was a scene written by RTD, starring Barrowman and Tennant, and aired on national television, I fail to see why it should be deleted while other articles such as [[A Fix with Sontarans]] or [[Curse of Fatal Death]] are kept. I have removed the proposed deletion banner accordingly but if someone wants to make the case that this article shouldn't be here, go ahead, though any such rationale, in my opinion, would impact the other articles, including possible [[Music of the Spheres]]. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 03:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
As this was a scene written by RTD, starring Barrowman and Tennant, and aired on national television, I fail to see why it should be deleted while other articles such as [[A Fix with Sontarans (TV story)|A Fix with Sontarans]] or [[The Curse of Fatal Death (TV story)|The Curse of Fatal Death]] are kept. I have removed the proposed deletion banner accordingly but if someone wants to make the case that this article shouldn't be here, go ahead, though any such rationale, in my opinion, would impact the other articles, including possible [[Music of the Spheres]]. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 03:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:I put in the proposed deletion as a spur-of-the-moment thing. I don't feel strongly that it doesn't belong here. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Rename ==
I proposed rename due to it being referred to as the Tonight's the Night special in reference books and but Barrowman himself. [[User:DENCH-and-PALMER|Yeah, it&#39;s me &#34;Denchen&#34;... I couldn&#39;t believe it either. ]] [[User talk:DENCH-and-PALMER|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:38, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
:There's a blackboard briefly shown on screen during the sketch that says "Tonight's the Night Special". [[User:Richkent|Richkent]] [[User talk:Richkent|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:41, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:32, 25 June 2022

Shalka Doctor[[edit source]]

Is this Doctor really non-canon or just from an alternate timeline? He's mentioned in TV: The Tomorrow Windows Americanwhofan 23:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Proper title question[[edit source]]

I understand that "Tonight's the Night" is a BBC TV show, and not the title of the sketch... but do we have any idea if there is a proper title for the sketch? --Raukodraug 19:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

  • I haven't been able to find any indication of a title. However if one is announced I certainly will support a move. I also wouldn't object, now I think about it, to this article being moved to Tonight's the Night Doctor Who Scene or some such. I was following the process used for the Sarah Jane Adventures Comic Relief sketch, which I believe was called Comic Relief until the skit's writer indicated its true title. 23skidoo 15:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Update: RTD refers to it as Tonight's the Night in DWM #410, so that's as official a title as I think we're going to get. 23skidoo 16:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

No, he doesn't. The exact quote from DWM 410's production notes is:
...my last words are written for that scene with Captain Jack and Sao Til, as part of John Barrowman's Tonight's the Night. Much as I love that show, it's hardly a way to commemorate my entire time on Doctor Who!
Note here that RTD uses italics around Tonight's the Night. Remember that we, as a community, for reasons I personally cannot defend, decided that we would italicize all story titles, so that we cannot actually tell the difference between a "long work" and a "short work". In the real world of standard English grammar, as is observed by DWM, italics indicate the name of a television series, or a serial. They absolutely do not indicate the name of a tiny sketch! Besides, it's very clear from the context that RTD is not talking about the sketch, but the entire series ("John Barrowman's Tonight's the Night). Note, too that he avoids a title for the sketch, calling it only "that scene", a phrase which he repeats later in the article. By RTD's own pen, the program is called Tonight's the Night; the scene is untitled.
czechout<staff />   13:56: Wed 04 Jan 2012 
Why is this still up in the air? It's been over a decade, and people haven't come to a consensus of if this is untitled or if it's called 'Tonight's the Night' (I believe it to be untitled, myself). Cookieboy 2005 14:23, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Why propose deletion?[[edit source]]

As this was a scene written by RTD, starring Barrowman and Tennant, and aired on national television, I fail to see why it should be deleted while other articles such as A Fix with Sontarans or The Curse of Fatal Death are kept. I have removed the proposed deletion banner accordingly but if someone wants to make the case that this article shouldn't be here, go ahead, though any such rationale, in my opinion, would impact the other articles, including possible Music of the Spheres. 23skidoo 03:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I put in the proposed deletion as a spur-of-the-moment thing. I don't feel strongly that it doesn't belong here. --Stardizzy2 15:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


Rename[[edit source]]

I proposed rename due to it being referred to as the Tonight's the Night special in reference books and but Barrowman himself. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. 16:38, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

There's a blackboard briefly shown on screen during the sketch that says "Tonight's the Night Special". Richkent 19:41, May 26, 2017 (UTC)