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So there were only 3 of them? Well, 3 heads? That was it? Surely UNIT could have just killed them there and then while they were inside the tank? Or were the whole race destroyed when the signal was reversed, even the ones on their home planet? --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez|LuisFernandoLopez]] 00:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
So there were only 3 of them? Well, 3 heads? That was it? Surely UNIT could have just killed them there and then while they were inside the tank? Or were the whole race destroyed when the signal was reversed, even the ones on their home planet? --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez|LuisFernandoLopez]] 00:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:It appears we're meant to believe that at the very least the ones that were theorized to be "in orbit" must have been destroyed. You're right, UNIT could have easily killed the one in Thames house, but that option was discussed and rejected. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] 02:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Spreee


== first contact in 1965? ==
== first contact in 1965? ==


might just be imagining, but did someone in one of the episodes not mention that they had come once before 1965 (1918 or something like that)?
might just be imagining, but did someone in one of the episodes not mention that they had come once before 1965 (1918 or something like that)?
:They refer to the flu epidemic in 1918, but I don't think they specify that the 456 were behind that epidemic; it's merely meant to remind them (and us) how dangerous a flu epidemic can be.  [[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 15:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Pared this paragraph down a bit. The ranks given for Sanders and Staines are their ranks at the time of CoE; we don't know their ranks in 1965. Since no rank is given for Ellen Hunt, it's debatable whether she was military or just working with them as the government contact on this operation. And Jack didn't participate in setting up the deal. He implemented a deal that had already been arranged before he was brought in; his only decision in the affair was the personal decision to go along with it. He may have had a role in selecting the children (I think he did, but it's not proven), but not in the choice to make the handoff in the first place. It's likely (but not known for sure) that the same could be said for the other three; it's implied that Ellen Hunt would have known more about how the decision was made, but not that she had any role in the actual decision-making. Given the time frame, it's very likely (but again not known for sure) that the actual decision-makers are dead before the time of CoE. [[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 15:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


==The 456 or 456?==
==The 456 or 456?==
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:During the series they were referred to as '''The''' 456. [[User:Whoniverse93|Whoniverse93]] 17:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:During the series they were referred to as '''The''' 456. [[User:Whoniverse93|Whoniverse93]] 17:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
The creature itself says "you call us 456", I think we should lose the "the".----<u>[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small></u> 17:31, June 17, 2011 (UTC)


== "The Hit" ==
== "The Hit" ==
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mabey they had unkown incounters with earth before
mabey they had unkown incounters with earth before
Maybe they had stolen children from other planets.
There's any number of possible reasons they may have suspected that children would. Since we know nothing about them, it's all just speculation. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] 02:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Spreee
It is possible that the 456 could have abducted humans before for other reasons and found children to make good drugs.
== A Name for the 456 ==
I got a name for the 456 - The Featherless Three-Headed Turkey. Or The Space Turkey. [[Special:Contributions/94.6.214.11|94.6.214.11]]<sup>[[User talk:94.6.214.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:29, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 24 March 2012

So there were only 3 of them? Well, 3 heads? That was it? Surely UNIT could have just killed them there and then while they were inside the tank? Or were the whole race destroyed when the signal was reversed, even the ones on their home planet? --LuisFernandoLopez 00:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It appears we're meant to believe that at the very least the ones that were theorized to be "in orbit" must have been destroyed. You're right, UNIT could have easily killed the one in Thames house, but that option was discussed and rejected. Spreee 02:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Spreee

first contact in 1965?[[edit source]]

might just be imagining, but did someone in one of the episodes not mention that they had come once before 1965 (1918 or something like that)?

They refer to the flu epidemic in 1918, but I don't think they specify that the 456 were behind that epidemic; it's merely meant to remind them (and us) how dangerous a flu epidemic can be. Bedawyn 15:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Pared this paragraph down a bit. The ranks given for Sanders and Staines are their ranks at the time of CoE; we don't know their ranks in 1965. Since no rank is given for Ellen Hunt, it's debatable whether she was military or just working with them as the government contact on this operation. And Jack didn't participate in setting up the deal. He implemented a deal that had already been arranged before he was brought in; his only decision in the affair was the personal decision to go along with it. He may have had a role in selecting the children (I think he did, but it's not proven), but not in the choice to make the handoff in the first place. It's likely (but not known for sure) that the same could be said for the other three; it's implied that Ellen Hunt would have known more about how the decision was made, but not that she had any role in the actual decision-making. Given the time frame, it's very likely (but again not known for sure) that the actual decision-makers are dead before the time of CoE. Bedawyn 15:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The 456 or 456?[[edit source]]

As it says on the section header. The 456 or 456, they're referred to with or without it. Is it a the the a title or part of it's "name"? --Tangerineduel 14:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

During the series they were referred to as The 456. Whoniverse93 17:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The creature itself says "you call us 456", I think we should lose the "the".----Skittles the hog--Talk 17:31, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

"The Hit"[[edit source]]

something I have been wondering about - if they first made contact in 1965 and took 12 children which they used as drugs, how then did they know that the children would produce such a high?

mabey they had unkown incounters with earth before

Maybe they had stolen children from other planets.

There's any number of possible reasons they may have suspected that children would. Since we know nothing about them, it's all just speculation. Spreee 02:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Spreee

It is possible that the 456 could have abducted humans before for other reasons and found children to make good drugs.

A Name for the 456[[edit source]]

I got a name for the 456 - The Featherless Three-Headed Turkey. Or The Space Turkey. 94.6.214.11talk to me 13:29, March 24, 2012 (UTC)