Talk:Series 10 (Doctor Who 2005): Difference between revisions

From Tardis Wiki, the free Doctor Who reference
Tag: sourceedit
 
(42 intermediate revisions by 19 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
==Source contradictions==
==Source contradictions==
A problem has occurred on who has written the sixth episode of the Series. French CV on Laurent Maurel says that said episode was written by Daniel Nettheim. A different source, namely Radio Times, had labelled Steven Moffat and Peter Harness as co-writers of said episode. What do we do in such case? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:30, February 1, 2017 (UTC)
A problem has occurred on who has written the sixth episode of the Series. French CV on Laurent Maurel says that said episode was written by <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]>. A different source, namely Radio Times, had labelled <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> as co-writers of said episode. What do we do in such case? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:30, February 1, 2017 (UTC)
:Can someone help explain this? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
:Can someone help explain this? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
:: Daniel Nettheim is the director. [[Special:Contributions/82.3.146.201|82.3.146.201]]<sup>[[User talk:82.3.146.201#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:02, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
:: <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> is the director. [[Special:Contributions/82.3.146.201|82.3.146.201]]<sup>[[User talk:82.3.146.201#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:02, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
::: You can't just conclude it like that. Radio Times says differently. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:15, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
::: You can't just conclude it like that. Radio Times says differently. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:15, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
:::: And why would the CV list the director over the writer? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:17, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
:::: And why would the CV list the director over the writer? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:17, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
Line 8: Line 8:
:::::: It does not say so. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:46, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
:::::: It does not say so. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:46, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
::::::: Radio Times says so, I'd rather go with RT saying a director with directorial experiences is directing it rather than a quite self-run site saying that a director is writing it. [[Special:Contributions/82.3.146.201|82.3.146.201]]<sup>[[User talk:82.3.146.201#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:58, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
::::::: Radio Times says so, I'd rather go with RT saying a director with directorial experiences is directing it rather than a quite self-run site saying that a director is writing it. [[Special:Contributions/82.3.146.201|82.3.146.201]]<sup>[[User talk:82.3.146.201#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:58, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::: I can't see that. I've read it up and down. Can't see it. And in any case, why didn't you add Nettheim as the director? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:35, February 7, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::: I can't see that. I've read it up and down. Can't see it. And in any case, why didn't you add <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> as the director? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:35, February 7, 2017 (UTC)
 
== The Sun ==
 
Going to put this here so there's a record: ''The Sun'' is not a valid source for real world articles. Any post on this page that uses ''The Sun'' as its source will be removed. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:24, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Series 10 page ==
There is a need to clear up a couple of things regarding this page and [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]].
* '''Everything''' posted to the series 10 page '''must have a source'''. Anything that doesn't have a '''valid''' source will be removed. Repeated adding of unsourced material even after it has been removed is a violation of [[T:NO WARS]] and could lead to a block.
* Do '''not''', I repeat, do '''not''' post spoiler information in edit summaries. Edit summaries are visible to everyone; posting spoilers in the edit summary violates [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. Repeated violations of this nature could lead to a block.
Thanks for your attention. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:11, April 11, 2017 (UTC)
 
== "First <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> since series 3?" ==
Doesn't last series' [[Face the Raven (TV story)|Face the Raven]], [[Heaven Sent (TV story)|Heaven Sent]], and [[Hell Bent (TV story)|Hell Bent]] constitute a three parter? [[User:TheTARDIScontroller|TheTARDIScontroller]] [[User talk:TheTARDIScontroller|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:12, April 15, 2017 (UTC)
:No. Face the Raven, though connecting to Heaven Sent and Hell Bent, is a single-story. Heaven Sent leads into Hell Bent. Those two are a two-parter. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:37, April 15, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Leak ==
Admins... Episode 3 has apparently been leaked on iTunes under the name of the previous episode Smile. Be careful. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:27, April 29, 2017 (UTC)
:Well, [[Tardis:Spoiler policy|Spoiler policy]] here is don't create an article for the episode until 8.30pm (it finishes airing at 8.10pm, and that's the next bottom of the hour). I'm sure if anyone posts it early it'll be deleted and appropriate action taken. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|15:01, 29/4/2017}}
::Just thought I should alert you. :D --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:32, April 29, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Source contradictions 2 ==
 
[[DWM 512]] and <link removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> the Radio Times source gives two different answers as to who wrote episodes 6 and 7. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 09:13, May 6, 2017 (UTC)
 
== What? ==
 
I <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> (which is what they are) and I return 1 hour later to find the page protected and my edits reverted. Can somebody please correct the episode table please. [[User:Mysterious Editor|Mysterious Editor]] [[User talk:Mysterious Editor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:48, May 6, 2017 (UTC)
:The claims were unsourced. Even if something is true it needs sources. Plus, it was only partially true. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:42, May 6, 2017 (UTC)
 
::It's been changed back now. Why? It IS <removed per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]>, and, as far as I can see, no new sources have been added since you said they needed a source. [[Special:Contributions/217.43.40.225|217.43.40.225]]<sup>[[User talk:217.43.40.225#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:39, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
:::Considering the ending of this episode, and the fact that we know what the next episode will be a about (I can't say it here, but just if you already know), surely not changing it back would be like, say, not counting The Impossible Astronaut as the same story as Day of the Moon, for instance (that is to say, really silly). [[Special:Contributions/31.49.2.154|31.49.2.154]]<sup>[[User talk:31.49.2.154#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:06, May 27, 2017 (UTC)
::::PS: Hope that doesn't count as a spoiler. I worded it as carefully as I could to ONLY refer to tonight's episode, and not say the thing that was edited out of the previous messages. [[Special:Contributions/31.49.2.154|31.49.2.154]]<sup>[[User talk:31.49.2.154#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:07, May 27, 2017 (UTC)
OK so it's been fixed now... but at the cost of the formatting of the page! The table's broken. [[Special:Contributions/31.49.2.154|31.49.2.154]]<sup>[[User talk:31.49.2.154#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:25, May 27, 2017 (UTC)
 
==Directors==
The episode list still has TBA listed for several directors. I thought the BBC had announced them by way of DWM? [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:37, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
* I see they've been added. Thanks! [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)
 
==Dates==
Just did a little bit of light clean-up. We need to remember to always include the year when mentioning dates. I just fixed a scenario where events in April 2017 (screening of The Pilot) and April 2016 (announcement of Bill) were mentioned literally back to back just month and day, but without the year there was no context of time. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:43, May 15, 2017 (UTC)
 
==Alpha Centurai==
Shouldn't the voice of Alpha Centurai be listed as a recurring rather than guest character?? [[User:MadeIndescribable|MadeIndescribable]] [[User talk:MadeIndescribable|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:13, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
: According to policy in [[T:CAST]], a character is recurring if they're in multiple stories, but only when they're less than five years apart. So going by that, I think Churchman is "recurring" in seasons 9 and 11, but "guest" in ''[[Empress of Mars (TV story)|Empress of Mars]]'', which is 43 years after ''[[The Monster of Peladon (TV story)|The Monster of Peladon]]''. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 22:24, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
 
==Rumours==
Hey add that Pearl Mackie leaving and David Bradley's First Doctor returning were both proven true please and thanks. [[Special:Contributions/213.123.3.22|213.123.3.22]]<sup>[[User talk:213.123.3.22#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:04, July 1, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Spoilers are not allowed on talk pages ==
 
I would like to remind that, no matter how good the intentions are, spoilers are disallowed on talk pages. Even spoilers for Series 10, including yet unaired episodes if any, are not allowed here. Even more so for any potential future series. Please collect all your fascinating links locally until the page for the next series is created. If there is already definitive information to put there (and I'm not saying there isn't), the page should be created in due time. Thank you for your cooperation. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:59, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Banners should specify status of the 2017 Christmas special ==
I wonder if it might be worth adding a line to the spoiler warnings on the banner that the 2017 Christmas special is going to be included in the Series 10 article, so the spoiler policy remains in effect until then? Might save a bit of confusion for newbies or casual readers/editors who don't realize how this wiki works. For example, there may be those who think the special should be part of Series 11, etc. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:18, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
 
<Removed by an admin as per [[T:SPOIL]]>
[[Special:Contributions/89.111.70.58|89.111.70.58]]<sup>[[User talk:89.111.70.58#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:46, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
 
Just going to add, that if the '''currently unaired''' Christmas special ''is'' considered part of series 10, then the page still needs the spoiler tags. Right now there is quite a bit of spoiler-y information in at least the lead if not the rest of the article. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:04, October 18, 2017 (UTC)
 
== 3-parter ==
Why did you change it back exstrems the pyramid at the end of the world and lie of the land is a three parter they are not single episodes {{Unsigned|Cyberdalek12}}
:No they are not. They are 3 connected single episode stories. Not one 3-parter. And remember to create a new section when starting a new topic. And remember to sign your comments. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:28, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
::Oh blimey, not this again. For both of your informations, [[Thread:183627|there is a mammoth thread]] currently going on about this very topic. It's not over yet, but what is clear is this: "''When do we call something a two- or three-parters rather than connected, but singular, episodes?''" is not a question that has an objectively correct answer. Whatever policy we settle on in that thread will just be an arbitrary choice, akin to "TARDIS vs. Tardis" and "K9 vs. K-9". --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:41, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
:::Chill out. I was informing about why it was reverted and what current politics are until settled completely. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:45, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:38, 20 April 2024

Source contradictions[[edit source]]

A problem has occurred on who has written the sixth episode of the Series. French CV on Laurent Maurel says that said episode was written by <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy>. A different source, namely Radio Times, had labelled <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> as co-writers of said episode. What do we do in such case? --DCLM 20:30, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Can someone help explain this? --DCLM 14:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
<removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> is the director. 82.3.146.201talk to me 18:02, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
You can't just conclude it like that. Radio Times says differently. --DCLM 18:15, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
And why would the CV list the director over the writer? --DCLM 18:17, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
He's a director, it says h's the director and he's not the writer... conclusive. 82.3.146.201talk to me 18:24, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
It does not say so. --DCLM 19:46, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
Radio Times says so, I'd rather go with RT saying a director with directorial experiences is directing it rather than a quite self-run site saying that a director is writing it. 82.3.146.201talk to me 19:58, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
I can't see that. I've read it up and down. Can't see it. And in any case, why didn't you add <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> as the director? --DCLM 11:35, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

The Sun[[edit source]]

Going to put this here so there's a record: The Sun is not a valid source for real world articles. Any post on this page that uses The Sun as its source will be removed. Shambala108 03:24, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

Series 10 page[[edit source]]

There is a need to clear up a couple of things regarding this page and Tardis:Spoiler policy.

  • Everything posted to the series 10 page must have a source. Anything that doesn't have a valid source will be removed. Repeated adding of unsourced material even after it has been removed is a violation of T:NO WARS and could lead to a block.
  • Do not, I repeat, do not post spoiler information in edit summaries. Edit summaries are visible to everyone; posting spoilers in the edit summary violates Tardis:Spoiler policy. Repeated violations of this nature could lead to a block.

Thanks for your attention. Shambala108 00:11, April 11, 2017 (UTC)

"First <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> since series 3?"[[edit source]]

Doesn't last series' Face the Raven, Heaven Sent, and Hell Bent constitute a three parter? TheTARDIScontroller 07:12, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

No. Face the Raven, though connecting to Heaven Sent and Hell Bent, is a single-story. Heaven Sent leads into Hell Bent. Those two are a two-parter. --DCLM 14:37, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Leak[[edit source]]

Admins... Episode 3 has apparently been leaked on iTunes under the name of the previous episode Smile. Be careful. --DCLM 12:27, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Well, Spoiler policy here is don't create an article for the episode until 8.30pm (it finishes airing at 8.10pm, and that's the next bottom of the hour). I'm sure if anyone posts it early it'll be deleted and appropriate action taken.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  15:01, 29/4/2017 
Just thought I should alert you. :D --DCLM 16:32, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Source contradictions 2[[edit source]]

DWM 512 and <link removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> the Radio Times source gives two different answers as to who wrote episodes 6 and 7. -- Tybort (talk page) 09:13, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

What?[[edit source]]

I <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> (which is what they are) and I return 1 hour later to find the page protected and my edits reverted. Can somebody please correct the episode table please. Mysterious Editor 10:48, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

The claims were unsourced. Even if something is true it needs sources. Plus, it was only partially true. --DCLM 11:42, May 6, 2017 (UTC)
It's been changed back now. Why? It IS <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy>, and, as far as I can see, no new sources have been added since you said they needed a source. 217.43.40.225talk to me 14:39, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
Considering the ending of this episode, and the fact that we know what the next episode will be a about (I can't say it here, but just if you already know), surely not changing it back would be like, say, not counting The Impossible Astronaut as the same story as Day of the Moon, for instance (that is to say, really silly). 31.49.2.154talk to me 20:06, May 27, 2017 (UTC)
PS: Hope that doesn't count as a spoiler. I worded it as carefully as I could to ONLY refer to tonight's episode, and not say the thing that was edited out of the previous messages. 31.49.2.154talk to me 20:07, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

OK so it's been fixed now... but at the cost of the formatting of the page! The table's broken. 31.49.2.154talk to me 21:25, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Directors[[edit source]]

The episode list still has TBA listed for several directors. I thought the BBC had announced them by way of DWM? 23skidoo 14:37, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

  • I see they've been added. Thanks! 23skidoo 03:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Dates[[edit source]]

Just did a little bit of light clean-up. We need to remember to always include the year when mentioning dates. I just fixed a scenario where events in April 2017 (screening of The Pilot) and April 2016 (announcement of Bill) were mentioned literally back to back just month and day, but without the year there was no context of time. 23skidoo 12:43, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

Alpha Centurai[[edit source]]

Shouldn't the voice of Alpha Centurai be listed as a recurring rather than guest character?? MadeIndescribable 22:13, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

According to policy in T:CAST, a character is recurring if they're in multiple stories, but only when they're less than five years apart. So going by that, I think Churchman is "recurring" in seasons 9 and 11, but "guest" in Empress of Mars, which is 43 years after The Monster of Peladon. -- Tybort (talk page) 22:24, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Rumours[[edit source]]

Hey add that Pearl Mackie leaving and David Bradley's First Doctor returning were both proven true please and thanks. 213.123.3.22talk to me 20:04, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Spoilers are not allowed on talk pages[[edit source]]

I would like to remind that, no matter how good the intentions are, spoilers are disallowed on talk pages. Even spoilers for Series 10, including yet unaired episodes if any, are not allowed here. Even more so for any potential future series. Please collect all your fascinating links locally until the page for the next series is created. If there is already definitive information to put there (and I'm not saying there isn't), the page should be created in due time. Thank you for your cooperation. Amorkuz 21:59, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Banners should specify status of the 2017 Christmas special[[edit source]]

I wonder if it might be worth adding a line to the spoiler warnings on the banner that the 2017 Christmas special is going to be included in the Series 10 article, so the spoiler policy remains in effect until then? Might save a bit of confusion for newbies or casual readers/editors who don't realize how this wiki works. For example, there may be those who think the special should be part of Series 11, etc. 23skidoo 13:18, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

<Removed by an admin as per T:SPOIL> 89.111.70.58talk to me 21:46, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Just going to add, that if the currently unaired Christmas special is considered part of series 10, then the page still needs the spoiler tags. Right now there is quite a bit of spoiler-y information in at least the lead if not the rest of the article. Shambala108 02:04, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

3-parter[[edit source]]

Why did you change it back exstrems the pyramid at the end of the world and lie of the land is a three parter they are not single episodes The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberdalek12 (talk • contribs) .

No they are not. They are 3 connected single episode stories. Not one 3-parter. And remember to create a new section when starting a new topic. And remember to sign your comments. --DCLM 20:28, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
Oh blimey, not this again. For both of your informations, there is a mammoth thread currently going on about this very topic. It's not over yet, but what is clear is this: "When do we call something a two- or three-parters rather than connected, but singular, episodes?" is not a question that has an objectively correct answer. Whatever policy we settle on in that thread will just be an arbitrary choice, akin to "TARDIS vs. Tardis" and "K9 vs. K-9". --Scrooge MacDuck 20:41, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
Chill out. I was informing about why it was reverted and what current politics are until settled completely. --DCLM 20:45, December 6, 2019 (UTC)