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== A lil' bit too biased? == | == A lil' bit too biased? == | ||
Surely "traitor" is a little too subjective for a category — one side's traitor is another's hero. I mean, just take a look at ''[[The Daleks' Master Plan (TV story)|The Daleks' Master Plan]]''. Here's a list of all the people that were called traitor in that serial (the ones that I caught, anyway): | Surely "traitor" is a little too subjective for a category — one side's traitor is another's hero. I mean, just take a look at ''[[The Daleks' Master Plan (TV story)|The Daleks' Master Plan]]''. Here's a list of all the people that were called traitor in that serial (the ones that I caught, anyway): | ||
* [[Zephon]] (self-applied) | * [[Zephon (The Daleks' Master Plan)|Zephon]] (self-applied) | ||
* [[Bret Vyon]] (by [[Mavic Chen]] and [[Lizan]], and later [[Sara Kingdom]]) | * [[Bret Vyon]] (by [[Mavic Chen]] and [[Lizan]], and later [[Sara Kingdom]]) | ||
* [[Kert Gantry]] (by Chen and Lizan) | * [[Kert Gantry]] (by Chen and Lizan) | ||
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Practically the entire cast is at some point named a traitor by the opposing side! | Practically the entire cast is at some point named a traitor by the opposing side! | ||
Now. Let's see who in that whole list actually has the | Now. Let's see who in that whole list actually has the traitor category applied: of course, Daxtar and Chen. This is ''extremely'' biased towards the Doctor and his allies. Aren't we supposed to present an unbiased view of the DWU? | ||
Let me quote a passage from [[T:CAT NAMES]]: "''Above all else, category names must not be open to multiple interpretation, and must be free of any bias or value judgements.''"<br />--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 04:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC) | Let me quote a passage from [[T:CAT NAMES]]: "''Above all else, category names must not be open to multiple interpretation, and must be free of any bias or value judgements.''"<br />--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 04:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Proposed deletion tag added. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:09, July 25, 2017 (UTC) | :Proposed deletion tag added. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:09, July 25, 2017 (UTC) | ||
The category has been deleted. Really, [[User:SOTO]]'s post says it all, but for those who are interested, there was a similar case several years ago where we got rid of "enemy" and "ally" categories. That discussion can be found at [[Forum:What makes an ally and an enemy?]] [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:27, June 6, 2018 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:14, 19 February 2019
A lil' bit too biased?[[edit]]
Surely "traitor" is a little too subjective for a category — one side's traitor is another's hero. I mean, just take a look at The Daleks' Master Plan. Here's a list of all the people that were called traitor in that serial (the ones that I caught, anyway):
- Zephon (self-applied)
- Bret Vyon (by Mavic Chen and Lizan, and later Sara Kingdom)
- Kert Gantry (by Chen and Lizan)
- Daxtar (by the Doctor and Bret Vyon)
- The entire TARDIS crew including Sara (by Chen)
- Mavic Chen (by Sara)
Practically the entire cast is at some point named a traitor by the opposing side!
Now. Let's see who in that whole list actually has the traitor category applied: of course, Daxtar and Chen. This is extremely biased towards the Doctor and his allies. Aren't we supposed to present an unbiased view of the DWU?
Let me quote a passage from T:CAT NAMES: "Above all else, category names must not be open to multiple interpretation, and must be free of any bias or value judgements."
--SOTO ☎ 04:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Proposed deletion tag added. Shambala108 ☎ 02:09, July 25, 2017 (UTC)
The category has been deleted. Really, User:SOTO's post says it all, but for those who are interested, there was a similar case several years ago where we got rid of "enemy" and "ally" categories. That discussion can be found at Forum:What makes an ally and an enemy? Shambala108 ☎ 00:27, June 6, 2018 (UTC)
