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:''We do not know if she also restored to life the other victims of the Daleks or restored the damage done to Earth itself by Dalek orbital bombardment but it can be assumed she did as the Earth is back to normal by The End Of The World.'' | :''We do not know if she also restored to life the other victims of the Daleks or restored the damage done to Earth itself by Dalek orbital bombardment but it can be assumed she did as the Earth is back to normal by The End Of The World.'' | ||
Why is this an safe assumption? It is clearly stated in [[The End of the World]] that the [[National Trust]] has the ability to shift back the continents, and that the planet is a "Classic Earth." It would be safe to equally assume that the National Trust has undone any damage from the attack. Is there any particular reason that this assumption is accepted? -- Kooky 21:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC) | Why is this an safe assumption? It is clearly stated in [[The End of the World (TV story)|The End of the World]] that the [[National Trust]] has the ability to shift back the continents, and that the planet is a "Classic Earth." It would be safe to equally assume that the National Trust has undone any damage from the attack. Is there any particular reason that this assumption is accepted? -- Kooky 21:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me, either. also, the comment has an out-of-universe reference, which reserve for Real World articles and Behind the Scenes sections. I'll fix it. --[[Special:Contributions/76.24.26.185|76.24.26.185]] 22:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC) | :that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me, either. also, the comment has an out-of-universe reference, which reserve for Real World articles and Behind the Scenes sections. I'll fix it. --[[Special:Contributions/76.24.26.185|76.24.26.185]] 22:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:There's so little known about the Time War, there's plenty of potential reasons. Maybe they did, and that's what ended the war. Maybe they tried, but the Dalek army in its prime could counter it. Maybe since the Doctor's TARDIS is old, the Time Lords have much better weapons to be used. | :There's so little known about the Time War, there's plenty of potential reasons. Maybe they did, and that's what ended the war. Maybe they tried, but the Dalek army in its prime could counter it. Maybe since the Doctor's TARDIS is old, the Time Lords have much better weapons to be used. | ||
:In any case, it's not a good idea to give yourself god-like power, especially when it fatal and will drive you mad. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 02:34, September 14, 2009 (UTC) | :In any case, it's not a good idea to give yourself god-like power, especially when it fatal and will drive you mad. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 02:34, September 14, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Because it would have led to the destruction of the universe, probably. He said they'd be a vengeful god. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:26, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== The Master's mention of Rose == | |||
There is a notation under "later references" that states it is unclear how The Master knew about Rose absorbing the Time Vortex. But if memory serves me right, in "Utopia" Professor Yana was also in the room with Martha and Chantho as they listened to The Doctor and Jack talk about Rose. It's pretty evident that he heard it as well, since various words and phrases caused echoes of the Master's memories to surface. If the Doctor can remember things from when he was John Smith in "Human Nature"/"The Family of Blood", its probably safe to assume that whatever knowledge contained within Yana was in turn part of the Master. {{Unsigned-anon|70.130.152.188}} | |||
:Good points. Agreed, he learned it from his time as the Professor. I shall fix that. --[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|The Doctor Detective Arch Architectural Bishop Baker Intern Inspector]] (aka. SmallerOnTheOutside). [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|Now memorize that and contact me.]] 22:13, February 6, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Why "Bad Wolf"? == | |||
I've searched for information on this but can find no explanation of the significance of the "Bad Wolf" name/identity. Could it have been Grumpy Hedgehog? Belligerent Bear? Voracious Viper? Egregious Eagle? | |||
Is there any significance of "bad wolf" to anything else in the Who universe? Because otherwise it seems completely random. [[Special:Contributions/63.143.217.227|63.143.217.227]]<sup>[[User talk:63.143.217.227#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:58, April 12, 2013 (UTC) | |||
I'd imagine that the phrase was chosen at random, but it might be a very loose reference to the Big Bad Wolf from the story of the Three Little Pigs. In a very loose sense, Rose DID "blow down" the Dalek Emperor's "house" (the entire Dalek fleet, including the saucer containing the Emperor). More likely than not, though, the name was simply chosen because it sounds cool and ominous. Signed, Grip the Wolf (yes, I am a furry) 22:25, November 15, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== The Bad Wolf and The Moment == | |||
To what extent should we combine the Bad Wolf Entity and the Moment's interface? IT claimed itself as the Bad Wolf, or at least the image of it. But,it also was able to break the Time Lock to allow 10/11 into the war before WarDoc used the Moment.{{Unsigned-anon|171.101.8.107 }} | |||
:Don't combine them. The Moment took on the image of Bad Wolf. We count when images appear like the holograms in Hitler but they aren't the same thing. [[Special:Contributions/134.197.104.200|134.197.104.200]]<sup>[[User talk:134.197.104.200#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:57, November 26, 2013 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 19:57, 26 November 2013
Safe Assumption?[[edit source]]
In the article, there is an notation:
- We do not know if she also restored to life the other victims of the Daleks or restored the damage done to Earth itself by Dalek orbital bombardment but it can be assumed she did as the Earth is back to normal by The End Of The World.
Why is this an safe assumption? It is clearly stated in The End of the World that the National Trust has the ability to shift back the continents, and that the planet is a "Classic Earth." It would be safe to equally assume that the National Trust has undone any damage from the attack. Is there any particular reason that this assumption is accepted? -- Kooky 21:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- that doesn't seem like a safe assumption to me, either. also, the comment has an out-of-universe reference, which reserve for Real World articles and Behind the Scenes sections. I'll fix it. --76.24.26.185 22:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've taken it out completely, based on the logic that if she had brought back the other victims of the Daleks, there would be several billion immortals just like Jack. That would seem unlikely. Monkey with a Gun 08:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Time War[[edit source]]
If a "Time Vortex-enhanced Human" is powerful enough to destroy the whole Dalek fleet and a "Time Vortex-enhanced Timelord" would be “a god”, then why didn’t the Timelords use this power in the Last Great Time War?
- There's so little known about the Time War, there's plenty of potential reasons. Maybe they did, and that's what ended the war. Maybe they tried, but the Dalek army in its prime could counter it. Maybe since the Doctor's TARDIS is old, the Time Lords have much better weapons to be used.
- In any case, it's not a good idea to give yourself god-like power, especially when it fatal and will drive you mad. -<Azes13 02:34, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Because it would have led to the destruction of the universe, probably. He said they'd be a vengeful god. -- Noneofyourbusiness 17:26, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
The Master's mention of Rose[[edit source]]
There is a notation under "later references" that states it is unclear how The Master knew about Rose absorbing the Time Vortex. But if memory serves me right, in "Utopia" Professor Yana was also in the room with Martha and Chantho as they listened to The Doctor and Jack talk about Rose. It's pretty evident that he heard it as well, since various words and phrases caused echoes of the Master's memories to surface. If the Doctor can remember things from when he was John Smith in "Human Nature"/"The Family of Blood", its probably safe to assume that whatever knowledge contained within Yana was in turn part of the Master. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.130.152.188 (talk).
- Good points. Agreed, he learned it from his time as the Professor. I shall fix that. --The Doctor Detective Arch Architectural Bishop Baker Intern Inspector (aka. SmallerOnTheOutside). Now memorize that and contact me. 22:13, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
Why "Bad Wolf"?[[edit source]]
I've searched for information on this but can find no explanation of the significance of the "Bad Wolf" name/identity. Could it have been Grumpy Hedgehog? Belligerent Bear? Voracious Viper? Egregious Eagle?
Is there any significance of "bad wolf" to anything else in the Who universe? Because otherwise it seems completely random. 63.143.217.227talk to me 18:58, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
I'd imagine that the phrase was chosen at random, but it might be a very loose reference to the Big Bad Wolf from the story of the Three Little Pigs. In a very loose sense, Rose DID "blow down" the Dalek Emperor's "house" (the entire Dalek fleet, including the saucer containing the Emperor). More likely than not, though, the name was simply chosen because it sounds cool and ominous. Signed, Grip the Wolf (yes, I am a furry) 22:25, November 15, 2013 (UTC)
The Bad Wolf and The Moment[[edit source]]
To what extent should we combine the Bad Wolf Entity and the Moment's interface? IT claimed itself as the Bad Wolf, or at least the image of it. But,it also was able to break the Time Lock to allow 10/11 into the war before WarDoc used the Moment.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 171.101.8.107 (talk).
- Don't combine them. The Moment took on the image of Bad Wolf. We count when images appear like the holograms in Hitler but they aren't the same thing. 134.197.104.200talk to me 19:57, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
