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::Yes, that I understand - compressing repetition into a single point. That I'd be fine with. Removing ''all'' specific detail, however, is what I'm against.[[User:TheTARDISLegilimens|TheTARDISLegilimens]] [[User talk:TheTARDISLegilimens|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:08, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
::Yes, that I understand - compressing repetition into a single point. That I'd be fine with. Removing ''all'' specific detail, however, is what I'm against.[[User:TheTARDISLegilimens|TheTARDISLegilimens]] [[User talk:TheTARDISLegilimens|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:08, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
== Page splitting ==
I know this page is very long and is getting overcluttered. As such, would it be more beneficial to split the page into different models? For example, we could have one page dedicated to the First and Second Doctors' sonic screwdriver, another for the Third Doctor's model, etc. On each page, there could be lists for each Sonic's usages and this main page could be used as a general overview of the device. It may make navigation a bit overcomplicated, but it could clean up the page and save space. What is the general consensus on this idea? [[User:Mc dark knight 2013|Mc dark knight 2013]] [[User talk:Mc dark knight 2013|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:19, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
:Sounds perfectly logical to me. -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] ([[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|✉️]]) 22:08, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
:: I agree. This page is unwieldy, and should really be split into individual models, like how we tend to split most characters with multiple incarnations nowadays. The page is also unhelpful, if, let's say, you wanted to know which was the first story that featured the [[Eighth Doctor]]'s "''Dark Eyes''" screwdriver; the page listing [[TV]]: ''[[Fury from the Deep (TV story)|Fury from the Deep]]'' is not exactly useful. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 10:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
:I see that [[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] has suggested the splitting of this page on [[Tardis:Temporary forums]], but given that it's a change which would only affect this page rather than the whole wiki, I don't think it actually needs a forum debate. A split of this page would be borderline required if the proposal for [[T:SPLIT]] passes, anyway. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 16:09, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
:: I proposed it there because I believe the scale of the undertaking may be on par with [[the Master]]. Like that subject there is the matter of naming articles and a question as to exactly how many versions of the sonic screwdriver there are. [[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] [[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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I personally don't think the Uses sections need to be 'cleaned up'. I prefer knowing specific details on what each sonic has done, and a general overview would make that more complicated, in my opinion. But, I could be wrong. TheTARDISLegilimens 15:00, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps they don't need to be complety cut down, but at least some cleaning up is needed. Look at the "uses" section of "The Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors' sonic screwdriver": we have 34 entries of "scanning...". And most of these are ridiculously specific: a lock of hair, an apple, cocoon, Clara Oswald. I mean, wouldn't it be a lot better to simply say that the Doctor used it as a scanner? OncomingStorm12th 15:05, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that I understand - compressing repetition into a single point. That I'd be fine with. Removing all specific detail, however, is what I'm against.TheTARDISLegilimens 15:08, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Page splitting[[edit source]]

I know this page is very long and is getting overcluttered. As such, would it be more beneficial to split the page into different models? For example, we could have one page dedicated to the First and Second Doctors' sonic screwdriver, another for the Third Doctor's model, etc. On each page, there could be lists for each Sonic's usages and this main page could be used as a general overview of the device. It may make navigation a bit overcomplicated, but it could clean up the page and save space. What is the general consensus on this idea? Mc dark knight 2013 21:19, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds perfectly logical to me. -- Saxon (✉️) 22:08, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
I agree. This page is unwieldy, and should really be split into individual models, like how we tend to split most characters with multiple incarnations nowadays. The page is also unhelpful, if, let's say, you wanted to know which was the first story that featured the Eighth Doctor's "Dark Eyes" screwdriver; the page listing TV: Fury from the Deep is not exactly useful. 10:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
I see that MrThermomanPreacher has suggested the splitting of this page on Tardis:Temporary forums, but given that it's a change which would only affect this page rather than the whole wiki, I don't think it actually needs a forum debate. A split of this page would be borderline required if the proposal for T:SPLIT passes, anyway. – n8 () 16:09, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
I proposed it there because I believe the scale of the undertaking may be on par with the Master. Like that subject there is the matter of naming articles and a question as to exactly how many versions of the sonic screwdriver there are. MrThermomanPreacher 16:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)