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• Donna's married name, if she is to marry Shaun Temple, will be 'Donna Temple-Noble'. The word 'Donna' is Italian for Woman, 'Temp' is Latin for Time and a Noble person would be a King, or Queen, or Lord. So, Donna Temple-Noble could in fact be a reference to "Woman Time-Lord".

Someone put that down in the references in The End of Time. But they're right. Donna Temple-Noble does technically mean 'woman', 'time' and noble is someone of royalty, like a lord.

Donna Noble itself means 'royal' and 'woman', meaning a royal woman. But with temple added to her name for when she gets married in the End of Time (I saw filming pictures of her having a wedding in what appeared to be a graveyard), it moreso means royal time woman.

And if it gets any stranger at that, Wilfred What re-arranged can make the word Time Lord and leaves three remaining letters that in themselves have a meaning: ftw is a short term for 'for the win', which is similar to the Time Lord's behaviour in the specials, or it can mean winning a Time Lord battle. And then there is Wilf being contacted be a presumed Time Lady.

And I'm ironically going to say it in her own word, "They say there's no such thing as coincidence." A lot of you would class things as coincidence, but the weird character who is fueling the theories disagrees with you, mentioned herself that they say there is no such thing as concidence. Perhaps this is also trying to hint at something? She made it clear that the Doctor and Wilf suddenly meeting again isn't a coincidence.

But don't you find it odd?

• 1. Donna Noble-Temple = the words: 'royal', 'woman', and 'time'.
• 2. Wilfred Mott = Time Lord FTW (which is short for 'for the win', a theme going on with the Time Lords in the same episode)

• 1. Donna is suddenly acting weird and is remembering as the Time Lords return.
• 2. Wilf seems to be being contacted by a presumed Time Lady.

• 1. Donna kept running into the Doctor
• 2. Wilf keeps running into the Doctor

They're related to each other, and they both have names relating to Time Lords in some way, both having some connection to the Time Lords return, both kept running into the Doctor, a Time Lord. Now a presumabled Time Lady is mentioned Wilf and the war. If it was genuine mentioned of the war, I wouldn't be alerted. But a possible Time Lady knowing about what he did in the war made me questioned which war she is refering to.

Delton Menace 19:20, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you look at it like that, the name "Martha Jones" is archaic for "Supertimelorddalekstellarmanipulator" which means she is a Time Lord, a Dalek, and the Hand of Omega. Coincidence? I think not. --DoctorWhotheF***

No, Wilfred Mott is an anagram for Time Lord, wtf? which is short for what the f...?

No, it's an anagram for Wilt, Fred, Tom--the front line of the famous 1958 Jayhawks basketball team. Center Wilt Chamberlain of course went from there to the Harlem Globetrotters. And all fans of Futurama know that the Globetrotters are experts at temporal physics. QED. --99.170.146.147 12:42, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Anything can be an anogram for anything. I could make up some random word that can be anogramed into two other different words if I wanted, so it is irrelivant. There is no "true" in anograms. Ir something makes two different words, they're both simply anograms, not just one of them. Delton Menace 13:05, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

I dont trust anagrams like this,many things are anagrams for other things purely by coincidence.Here are a few examples:"slot machines" is an anagram of "cash lost in 'em" "school master" is an anagram for "the classroom"."Clint eastwood" is anagram of "old west action" and just to finish off with a doctor who related one "mister harold saxon" is an anagram for many things including "axonite harms lords" "martha drools in sex" and "hormonal TARDIS sex"

are these hidden messages? were they planned out in advance? NO what is the meaning of this neg-a-tive? it means NO!--666hotline 04:43, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Three words: Russell T. Davies. Most of his writing in Who reolves around anograms and hidden messages, keep an eye out. Heh, another thing she belived he lied, she believed. Delton Menace 05:02, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

The acronym thing was more JNT's style than RTD's. Be brought The Master back as Tremas. And then, he was in disguise half the time after that, and each time the actor was credited as an anagram of Tony (or Anthony) Ainley. But when RTD brought him back, there was no anagram; instead, he used an acronym of an arc phrase, YANA.

Of course Sam Tyler is a highly suspicious name--first name of the first new companion in the novels, last name of the first companion in the new series, and the whole thing an anagram for "Masterly"--but I'm pretty sure that's pure coincidence, especially since RTD had nothing to do with Life on Mars and nobody knew that Simm would be playing The Master in the future. (Unless they have a TARDIS.) --99.157.75.211 05:47, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Temp isn't latin for time, chronus is.

First, please sign your posts with four tildes (~).

Second, you're wrong. "Khronos" (or "chronos") is Greek for "time"; "tempus" is Latin. (And "Chronus" with a "u" is a Renaissance-era spelling for Greek "Cronus", the leader of the Titans, who's completely unrelated.) The original poster is right about that.

However, the word "temple" doesn't come from the root "temp-". "Temple" in the sense of a place of worship comes from Latin "templum", which has nothing to do with "tempus". "Temple" in the sense of "side of the head" comes from a different (but possibly related) Latin word "tempus".

If you want to take the whole name back to Latin: "Donna Noble Temple" or "Domina Nobilis Templum" would mean Mistress, well-known to be of noble birth, cleared space in front of an altar. Not too signficant. But presumably RTD is not a Latin scholar, and he could easily have meant us to think of "Lady Lord (of) Time" and just used the wrong words. Far more likely, he wasn't even thinking Latin at all. The modern English meanings of "Donna", "Noble", and "Temple" don't work any worse than the Latin words they're derived from (and have exactly the same problem with the last name--actually, "Donna Noble the Temp" is much closer). Or, of course, it's all just a coincidence--the fact that her first and last names both imply nobility, juxtaposed with her being as far from an aristocrat as possible, was a bit of a joke, and that's all it meant. --Falcotron 00:31, June 6, 2010 (UTC)