User talk:Jack

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Definite articles

I don't think there's a formal policy. On the whole, I believe the precedent is to default to using it for individuals who go by a title the way "the Doctor" does, even if it's a multi-word title, but to only use it for objects/locations/etc. when it's a single-word designation rather than a multi-word phrase; hence The Machine but Crystal of Kronos. Indeed, note that the Vortex has long existed as a redirect for Time Vortex. The Guardians seem to be something of an exception to this rule, probably grandfathered-in from early days of the Wiki, and I wouldn't be opposed to the Black Guardian and the White Guardian; they should definitely exist as redirects at least.

Regarding the Scriptures, they're a bit of a special case A Bloody (And Public) Domaine is ambiguous about whether "The Dragon Scriptures" is the title of the work, or simply a designation. There's a difference between "the Dalek Chronicles" and "The Dalek Chronicles", you see? I decided that reproducing the formatting used in the book — i.e. including the "The" but not italicising — was the best way to reflect this ambiguity. The Scrolls of Gallifrey, meanwhile, are very much an external descriptor for an object. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 22:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Talk pages

Hi, while I can appreciate your effort to clear up vandalism by removing it at Talk:Face of Boe, it is against policy for users to remove other users' posts from any kind of talk or discussion page. In the future, please inform an admin if you think something like this needs to be taken care of thanks Shambala108 ☎ 15:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Re: Peri

There never has been — not as a general rule. There was a specific stopgap ruling for very long pages (e.g. Doctors) whose pages were getting so long that they were lagging in people's browsers, but it is not meant to apply to all character pages; it never was. Three sentences per story is nowhere near enough in 99% of cases. And as of the subpages thread, in Doctors' (/etc.)'s cases, the thing to do is to transfer the full-length version of the biography to a /Biography subpage (while leaving the three-sentences-max version in place on the main page) — not delete it.

With that said, the Mindwarp section on Peri is unusually long. It could be cut down a little, certainly — or, as I said, moved to its own event page if necessary. But three sentences would be much too little, and the plot summary of the TV story fills a completely different function than a complete, clear, linear biography of the in-universe character; notice for example that the long version you'd deleted intersperses some additional details from the novelisation. That unified account of events drawing from multiple sources, focused on Peri, isn't something that the TV story's plot summary could provide. They're different things. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 23:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, it'd be enough at a bare minimum; certainly you don't have to worry about rewriting other biographical elements if you've written them out yourself to about that level of detail. But more detail than the necessary minimum isn't necessarily bad, is what I'm trying to say. Having more than the essentials doesn't mean a section requires trimming. If someone's put in the extra effort to give additional details, generally, it's better to leave them in, even if they weren't truly missing from the page beforehand. You know? It's harmless.

An we are talking about what is, to some degree, the character's death here; it seems proper to me to give it more psychological depth and context than a random adventure. Those insights from the novelisation are, IMO, interesting; were the death to stick, some of these would be a TV companion's final thoughts, and I don't really see where else this fairly interesting information could be presented. Likewise I think e.g. the bit about her "sharing a final fond moment with Yrcanos before etc." is important to ‘ground’ the possible future where she marries him as something that doesn't come entirely out of left field.

I do, as I said, think the section as written is a little too long. But I find your proposed alternative much too spartan. The psychological insights etc. are useful, even if we don't need the full beat-by-beat. Six full paragraphs is too much, but this could easily support three without devolving into trivialities, to give you a ballpark of what I mean. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 23:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Wild Blue Yonder numbers

Hey there! Hope you're well. I wanted to check with you directly before I edit them further. The Wild Blue Yonder (TV story) (WBY) number articles, like Fenslaw and so forth; I saw you added the merge template to them, specifically that they be fused into their English-language page equivalents. However, you didn't leave a reason why. Hence, I thought it best to check with you what exactly that reason is?

Furthermore, upon receiving your reason, is the best way to merge them simply to turn the WBY language pages into REDIRECTs and move the content copy-paste style on to the English-language number articles?

I look forward to reading your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 23:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah good. So does that mean I can go ahead, turn them all into redirects and then transfer the content on to the respective number article? Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 16:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: Changing your name

Yes - I believe SOTO has this ability. I would send them a message to ask about it. In time, we will get a proper help page set up for this. Bongo50 ☎ 14:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I see no reason why not, so fulfilled! Enjoy being the one and only User:Jack.

User:Jack "BtR" Saxon redirects. I strongly recommend still including the name somewhere in your user page, so folks know it's you. (Incidentally, those quotation marks gave me no end of trouble in the Forum Archive project. :P)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 14:40, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Re: The Quin Dilemma

Thanks, for checking those edits for the Quin Dilemma, some of those where because I followed the links already created for those pages so thought that they were reasons why it was like that. There really should be a guide to how those infoboxes work fully in a user friendly way, as some bits work as expected others don't. AdricLovesNyssa ☎ 15:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, I was logged out whilst leaving the above message and couldn't log back in for a few hours, correctly signed the name now. AdricLovesNyssa ☎ 15:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Re: Third Doctor Adventures

Fair enough, sorry about that. SID'gingerfool'RAT - ☎^🔎 |📂|📝 18:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Re: Coleman likeness

…I mean, I certainly think it does. Hm. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 13:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Re: Wurm Wondering

Hi, I was mainly going off of how I interpreted the word sounded when used by the actors. The pronunciations in the story seemed to have the rising, higher pitched tone associated with "y" (like they were saying "Wi-rm") rather than the lower-pitched "uh" sound of a "u" that would make "Wuh-rm". I've not exposed myself to much German in my life, but part of it was also that "Wyrm" seems more standard spelling for me than "Wurm".

However, I've done a quite look and it turns out that the Secret Histories framing sequence uses "Wyrm" when making a continuity reference to Adolescence. Mark Clapham, at least, seemed to also hear it as I did. Does that add up? TheChampionOfTime ☎ 20:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm curious, in what context is Adolescence discussed? I thought the book stopped before it got to that point in the release schedule. Definitely if its the original script spelling, and this earlier instance would suggest that, that's what the page should be. TheChampionOfTime ☎ 20:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

RE: Tagged

Ah, my mistake. I wasn't aware it was used in any context. I had considered changing it to "by implication".

That's very interesting, in any case. Do feel free to change the wording again to whatever feels most natural.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 20:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)