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Should this page not be merged with [[Astrolabus]]? [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:55, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | Should this page not be merged with [[Astrolabus]]? [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:55, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:No, any more than [[The War King]] with [[The Master]] — or indeed [[Great House]] with [[Time Lord]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:02, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | :No, any more than [[The War King]] with [[The Master]] — or indeed [[Great House]] with [[Time Lord]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:02, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | ||
::shouldn't that be the case for [[Kelsey Hooper]] too then? [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:06, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | ::shouldn't that be the case for [[Kelsey Hooper]] too then? [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:06, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::I dunno. The merge was performed a long time ago, and I presume there was a good reason at the time. | |||
:::Notice that "Homeworld" and "Gallifrey" were merged too. I suppose there might be something to the idea that when the FP version has changed in-universe, it's more likely to always be covered on its own page even after the hints pile up, whereas if hints pile up as evidence of "it's literally the same thing", we sometimes do perform a merge. But that's just my own speculation.--[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:11, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::i dunno, if that were the case then [[Auteur]] and [[Astrolabus]] would be merged (as most of Auteur's page contains pictures and information regarding to Astroalabus' appearances). i doubt FP had any rights to use Kelsey, which is why they needed to go with "Ceol" that is derived from Kelsey. [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:17, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::Not necessarily. They routinely have characters go by alternate names even when they have the right to them. [[Christine Summerfield]]/[[Cousin Eliza]] comes to mind. | |||
:::I think the bits of [[Auteur]] which describe [[Astrolabus]] could definitely be trimmed, though. I think the in-universe evidence is sufficient to mention Auteur's life as Astrolabus on this one in the in-universe sections, but you're right that there's too ''much'' of it as it stands. But the answer, to me, is to better separate the two pages, not to merge them. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:21, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::i think if there is no solid confirmation that FP had the rights to use [[Kelsey Hooper]] then the pages should definetly be split between Kelsey and Ceol. [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:25, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | |||
This just in "the homeworld" isn't the same as "Gallifrey" because they couldn't get the rights to mention the name of the latter. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:31, July 7, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:In light of the closure of [[Thread:279761]], I have implemented a trimming-down of the Astrolabus information on this page, reducing it to a two-line mention and a lengthier BTS note. Is this agreeable? --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:33, September 12, 2020 (UTC) | |||
::We really need to get a universal policy on these sorts of things eventually, as this is wildly inconsistent. But the page itself looks fine I think? I've only read [[A Bloody (And Public) Domaine (short story)]], so I don't know if more should be added or even if the copyright was somehow obtained. But given what I know the formatting is fine. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:48, September 12, 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Merger[[edit source]]
Should this page not be merged with Astrolabus? DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎ 02:55, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- No, any more than The War King with The Master — or indeed Great House with Time Lord. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 03:02, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- shouldn't that be the case for Kelsey Hooper too then? DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎ 03:06, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- I dunno. The merge was performed a long time ago, and I presume there was a good reason at the time.
- shouldn't that be the case for Kelsey Hooper too then? DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎ 03:06, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- Notice that "Homeworld" and "Gallifrey" were merged too. I suppose there might be something to the idea that when the FP version has changed in-universe, it's more likely to always be covered on its own page even after the hints pile up, whereas if hints pile up as evidence of "it's literally the same thing", we sometimes do perform a merge. But that's just my own speculation.--Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 03:11, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- i dunno, if that were the case then Auteur and Astrolabus would be merged (as most of Auteur's page contains pictures and information regarding to Astroalabus' appearances). i doubt FP had any rights to use Kelsey, which is why they needed to go with "Ceol" that is derived from Kelsey. DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎ 03:17, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. They routinely have characters go by alternate names even when they have the right to them. Christine Summerfield/Cousin Eliza comes to mind.
- Notice that "Homeworld" and "Gallifrey" were merged too. I suppose there might be something to the idea that when the FP version has changed in-universe, it's more likely to always be covered on its own page even after the hints pile up, whereas if hints pile up as evidence of "it's literally the same thing", we sometimes do perform a merge. But that's just my own speculation.--Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 03:11, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- I think the bits of Auteur which describe Astrolabus could definitely be trimmed, though. I think the in-universe evidence is sufficient to mention Auteur's life as Astrolabus on this one in the in-universe sections, but you're right that there's too much of it as it stands. But the answer, to me, is to better separate the two pages, not to merge them. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 03:21, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- i think if there is no solid confirmation that FP had the rights to use Kelsey Hooper then the pages should definetly be split between Kelsey and Ceol. DiSoRiEnTeD1 ☎ 03:25, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- I think the bits of Auteur which describe Astrolabus could definitely be trimmed, though. I think the in-universe evidence is sufficient to mention Auteur's life as Astrolabus on this one in the in-universe sections, but you're right that there's too much of it as it stands. But the answer, to me, is to better separate the two pages, not to merge them. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 03:21, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
This just in "the homeworld" isn't the same as "Gallifrey" because they couldn't get the rights to mention the name of the latter. Najawin ☎ 03:31, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
- In light of the closure of Thread:279761, I have implemented a trimming-down of the Astrolabus information on this page, reducing it to a two-line mention and a lengthier BTS note. Is this agreeable? --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:33, September 12, 2020 (UTC)
- We really need to get a universal policy on these sorts of things eventually, as this is wildly inconsistent. But the page itself looks fine I think? I've only read A Bloody (And Public) Domaine (short story), so I don't know if more should be added or even if the copyright was somehow obtained. But given what I know the formatting is fine. Najawin ☎ 19:48, September 12, 2020 (UTC)
