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Should this even be considered to have enough of a "claim" to being in-universe to get an invalid tag. For example, [[The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot (TV story)|The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot]] and [[An Adventure in Space and Time (TV story)|An Adventure in Space and Time]] both simply have "real world" tags as they're just totally out-of-universe. [[Special:Contributions/86.160.122.168|86.160.122.168]]<sup>[[User talk:86.160.122.168#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:30, November 19, 2020 (UTC) | Should this even be considered to have enough of a "claim" to being in-universe to get an invalid tag. For example, [[The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot (TV story)|The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot]] and [[An Adventure in Space and Time (TV story)|An Adventure in Space and Time]] both simply have "real world" tags as they're just totally out-of-universe. [[Special:Contributions/86.160.122.168|86.160.122.168]]<sup>[[User talk:86.160.122.168#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:30, November 19, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:If they do that is ''really'' confusing, especially with ''AAiS&T'' which does have the Doctor in it for that one scene. It's intentionally ambiguous what the cameo means, and he ''can'' be interpreted as genuinely the Eleventh Doctor rather than Matt Smith — yet we don't want people putting that info in the "Biography" section of [[Eleventh Doctor]]. | |||
:Pure documentaries, or otherwise wholly-non-fictional works (like, say, the ''Lockdown'' song covers), can do without the invalid tag. But any ''work of fiction'' is by definition not "out-of-universe"; it's going to be set in a universe of its own, that is more or less dissimilar to our own depending on the genre. If that universe isn't the DWU, we simply ''must'' tag as invalid. | |||
:If what you describe was ever a decision that was actively taken, rather than just "coming about", I suspect it must date back to a time of the Wiki when we weren't yet aware of all the meta [[Doctor Who (N-Space)]]-type things. But these days, it's not at ''all'' obvious that a story is going to be invalid just because it has a fictionalised [[Nicholas Briggs]] in it. | |||
:'''The bottom line is that for the time being, I am going to be applying invalid tags to both the story pages you cited. ''They'' were in the wrong, not this page,''' as far as I can tell. Though if anyone has strong counterarguments, or a link to an earlier decision/debate on the matter, by all means present them. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:44, November 19, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:: Not to mention that ''[[Big Finish (The Zygon Isolation)|Big Finish]] does exist within N-Space''. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 20:50, November 19, 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Invalid tag?[[edit source]]
Should this even be considered to have enough of a "claim" to being in-universe to get an invalid tag. For example, The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot and An Adventure in Space and Time both simply have "real world" tags as they're just totally out-of-universe. 86.160.122.168talk to me 20:30, November 19, 2020 (UTC)
- If they do that is really confusing, especially with AAiS&T which does have the Doctor in it for that one scene. It's intentionally ambiguous what the cameo means, and he can be interpreted as genuinely the Eleventh Doctor rather than Matt Smith — yet we don't want people putting that info in the "Biography" section of Eleventh Doctor.
- Pure documentaries, or otherwise wholly-non-fictional works (like, say, the Lockdown song covers), can do without the invalid tag. But any work of fiction is by definition not "out-of-universe"; it's going to be set in a universe of its own, that is more or less dissimilar to our own depending on the genre. If that universe isn't the DWU, we simply must tag as invalid.
- If what you describe was ever a decision that was actively taken, rather than just "coming about", I suspect it must date back to a time of the Wiki when we weren't yet aware of all the meta Doctor Who (N-Space)-type things. But these days, it's not at all obvious that a story is going to be invalid just because it has a fictionalised Nicholas Briggs in it.
- The bottom line is that for the time being, I am going to be applying invalid tags to both the story pages you cited. They were in the wrong, not this page, as far as I can tell. Though if anyone has strong counterarguments, or a link to an earlier decision/debate on the matter, by all means present them. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 20:44, November 19, 2020 (UTC)
- Not to mention that Big Finish does exist within N-Space. 20:50, November 19, 2020 (UTC)
