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| ==Rani complication==
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| I head the Rani might be coming back,is there any truth to this rumour?
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| If so it would be cool if the Tenth Doctor rescued a young woman from say...cybermen or something....and found out it was the Rani(weak after Regeneration.....--[[User:The draconian idot|The draconian idot]] 18:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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| Well I'm not sure if you noticed the hand picking up the Masters ring prior to the end of The Last of the Time Lords. It gives speculation that the Rani will be there though whoever started the rumour that Davros will return I don't know. --[[User:Vitas|Vitas]] 07:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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| i think Lucy Saxon is The Rani she is just as blood thirsty as The Master, no human raised person would like the destruction of the human race, but after a year of putting up with him she took her chance and killed him, my thought is that she took the ring because it was her version of a chameleon watch because not many women have pocket watches, my theory is the master some how got memories but not her time lord genes she need it to return, The Master kept it hostage to keep her from killing him 11:52, August 19, 2008 [[User:TheHoBo|TheHoBo]]
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| :It might sound a bit stupid but I think River Song could be The Rani. Her darker side that has been mentioned could be a hint? Plus that she has been supposedly mentioned to be returning in Series 5. [[User:Hellkaiserryo12|<font color="FireBrick" size="2px">'''''Hell'''''</font><font color="Crimson" size="2px">'''''Kaiser'''''</font><font color="FireBrick" size="2px">'''''ryo12'''''</font>]] ([[user_talk:Hellkaiserryo12|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Hellkaiserryo12|Contribs]]) 16:15, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Her hand ==
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| i've seen almost nothing of the pre-rose doctor who, and i didn't see this talked about anywhere else on the site, but at the end of [[Last of the Time Lords]] we see a female hand with red nails grab a ring from the masters ashes, and we know the master is coming back in the end of time. does any1 else think it may have been her hand and she's also coming back? p.s. i'm very behind on news/speculation so... yeah... if this has been talked about b4, just give me the gist of it, or direct me to where it has been discussed.
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| tnx in advance.[[User:Akbaroth|Akbaroth]] 10:19, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Theory ==
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| I think that River Song is really the Rani.
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| == I don't Think The Rani is River Song ==
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| I doubt River Song is The Rani because when she makes her debut and is killed she would probably regnerate if she was The Rani but Song's mind is placed in the computer of the library.
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| [[Special:Contributions/68.50.71.46|68.50.71.46]] 01:26, June 4, 2010 (UTC)Rockkidmetal
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| River told the Doctor that he wouldn't regerate in that episode, so if River was a timelord she wouldn't regenerate. Even so, it is still incredibly unlikely that River is the Rani.Icecreamdif 01:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Ushas ==
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| Which source states that The Rani's real name is Ushas? [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:32, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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| :It looks like the article is stating ''[[Divided Loyalties (novel)|Divided Loyalties]]'' as the source. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:11, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
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| ::Not necessarily her ''real'' name - it could just as well be her Academy nickname, like Theta Sigma. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:58, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
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| :"Ushas" now appears as the Rani's name in ''[[The Rani Elite (audio story)|The Rani Elite]]'' as well. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 19:24, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::Indeed, but it could just as well have been a nickname, not her "real" name. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:19, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
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| :::If it was a nickname, it wasn't one she chose; in ''The Rani Elite'' she reacts angrily when addressed as Ushas by the Doctor. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 05:36, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
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| == Hellcat Squadran ==
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| Does anyone mind if I copy the information contained in this article onto a page for a fanfiction version of her on the Hellcat Squadran Wiki?
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| [[User:TheReturnOfTheKing|Fantastic]]! [[User_talk:TheReturnOfTheKing|Allons-y]]! [[User_blog:TheReturnOfTheKing|Geronimo!]] 00:51, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
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| :I'll just work under the assumption it's allowed, since I anticipate a heck of a wait before I get a reply.
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| :[[User:TheReturnOfTheKing|Fantastic]]! [[User_talk:TheReturnOfTheKing|Allons-y]]! [[User_blog:TheReturnOfTheKing|Geronimo!]] 18:48, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
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| ::It's generally a good idea to wait at least 48 hours for a reply; we all have real lives outside of the wiki. Especially when it concerns the copying of material from here to somewhere else. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:50, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
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| ::The original content at this wiki is available under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 license], which means you are free to reuse it so long as you credit the original pages where you got the reused text, and apply the same CC license to the work you use it in (in this case, your fic.) For more information, read [[Tardis:Copyrights]].
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| ::The non-original content, such as images and artwork taken from ''Doctor Who'' and other copyrighted sources, is ''not'' freely reusable; we use it here under fair use/fair dealing laws which protect things like this encyclopedia, but which would not really apply to fanfic. More information can be found by clicking over to an image's description page and reading the license text under it. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 05:19, January 4, 2015 (UTC)
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| ==Links to incarnations==
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| Hi, I was wondering as we now have to incarnations of the Rani, to have the template links to each individual incarnation, like there is for the Master with <nowiki>{{Delgado}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{Maqueen}}</nowiki>, to have the template link to Kate O'Mara's incarnation, I suggest <nowiki>{{O'Mara}}</nowiki> and Siobhan Redmond's incarnation <nowiki>{{Redmond}}</nowiki>. What's everyone's opinion on this?. This may be more useful in the future, if there are more Redmond Rani stories. I suggest suggest this as I just edited the Redmond section following a like from the Rani Elite and had to find the appropriate section rather than the link just going to it. '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 22:45, February 15, 2015 (UTC)
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| :I think these templates would be useful to have as we are keeping the Rani to one article. I made an example one on my user page based off the Master templates, but the documentation didn't come out right. However, it still works: <nowiki>{{User:PicassoAndPringles/Template:Redmond}}</nowiki> gives {{User:PicassoAndPringles/Template:Redmond}}. Obviously this shouldn't be used on actual pages, it was just a proof of concept, and it could be moved over to the actual Template namespace. '''[[User:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#002B7F">P&P</span>]] [[User_talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#FCD116;font-size:0.6em">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#CE1126;font-size:0.6em">contribs</span>]]''' 03:27, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::How many incarnations of the Rani are there? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:13, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::: Only two so far, but I think that this idea is a good one. We do it for the Monk, who only has one more incarnation than the Rani. [[User:Ben Moore512|Ben Moore512]] [[User talk:Ben Moore512|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:16, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
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| == Article image ==
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| Seems an odd choice of header image - is this even from a comic strip? Or a DWM article or is it just fanart? Surely a better header image would be a screenshot from Mark of the Rani/Time and the Rani? [[User:Notsimonpegg|Notsimonpegg]] [[User talk:Notsimonpegg|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:44, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| :If you ever wonder about an image source, you can click on the image and look for the license. That will tell you where it's from. In this case, it's a comic story image. I believe there was an image here before from one of the TV stories, but it had been deleted a while back. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:52, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::Any way to reinstate the previous one? The current image seems completely out of place. [[User:Notsimonpegg|Notsimonpegg]] [[User talk:Notsimonpegg|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:20, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| :::After doing a little digging, this is what I found: I deleted the image a few months back because it was a publicity image. However, I wasn't able to find an existing image of her that would fit our guidelines. So the infobox had no image until this comic image was added.
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| :::If a good quality image, following [[Tardis:Guide to images]], can be uploaded from one of her tv stories, it can be proposed as an infobox image. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:28, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::[[File:Rani_KO.jpg|thumb|left]] I've had a look at my screenshots from [[The Mark of the Rani (TV story)|The Mark of the Rani]] and [[Time and the Rani (TV story)|Time and the Rani]] and thought this would be the only appropriate image from my collection. Could I propose a rolling image with both Kate and Siobhan as per Rassilon and the Master? '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 17:58, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| The image itself is from ''[[Vworp Vworp!]]'' -- I apparently uploaded it months ago when I thought that we needed to have pages on the strips within. I have since realized that it's a fanzine and thus not official and should be covered as if it were a [[Charity publication]] (as in we shouldn't). Sorry for the confusion, will mark for deletion. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 20:51, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| :Thanks, OttselSpy25. Now if someone could upload a more tightly cropped version of what AdricLovesNyssa has proposed, that would make a good infobox image. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:27, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| [[File:Rani_Time_and_the_Rani.jpg|thumb]]
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| :: It's good for now, but isn't she in a disguise? Got a real old-Doc-Brown look to her. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 01:01, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::: Surely an image from ''Time and the Rani'' better encapsulates the "Rani look"? Even one looking to the right is better in my eyes. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 01:11, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| I hope there are enough potential images of her to give us a tightly cropped infobox image. I'm posting an image of Jamie here to show how tightly we like infobox images to be cropped. The face fills most of the frame, and there is little of the background visible. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:40, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| [[file:JamieLooksLeftTAS.jpg|thumb]]
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| : Well until we can find an image that close I suggest that we use [[:File:Rani Redmond.jpg]]. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 05:39, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| Really now? Kate O'Mara is the iconic (and television) actress, not Redmond. [[User:Notsimonpegg|Notsimonpegg]] [[User talk:Notsimonpegg|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:42, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::Ok I'll have another go later, and in response to OS25 this is taken from just after she removes the mask and the wig. '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 07:34, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| :::Given that the Master, the Doctor, Rassilon and Romana all have a rolling image, I think we should do the same here. [[User:LelalMekha|LelalMekha]] [[User talk:LelalMekha|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:22, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::Unfortunately, [[Tardis:Images and perspective]] states, "Novel or audio covers may also be potential sources for in-universe imagery, but only when no other source has an image to offer." Since we have several screenshots of her, the CD cover is out. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:31, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| : Yea, but we need an image of O'Mara playing the Rani not in disguise. Basically someone needs to watch ''Time and the Rani'' in my opinion. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 17:22, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| :: or later on in Mark as she spends episode 2 not in disguise, '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 21:30, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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| == Splitting the Rani ==
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| With [[the Monk]] having recently been split off into their respective pages, I feel it is time to split up [[the Rani]]. With both being clearly distinctive incarnations (in Vortex 70, when Redmond asked if she was simply playing Kate O'Mara's incarnation she was told "No, we want you to bring a different tack to it, as it's a different incarnation of the Rani."), it's fairly simple to split them apart.
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| As it stands, there is no jurisprudence saying that we shouldn't split [[the Rani]]. The Rani's timeline is fairly straight forward. With only two incarnations (and a brief mention of her during the War in Heaven), we would be splitting the pages into:
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| * [[The Rani]] for the overall Time Lady. This would include reference to the incarnation active during the [[War in Heaven]] under the "Undated events" subheading.
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| * [[First Rani]] for the first incarnation, as portrayed by Kate O'Mara. Kate O'Mara is clarified as the first incarnation explicitly in [[PROSE]]: ''[[Time and the Rani (novelisation)|Time and the Rani]]'').
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| * [[Second Rani]] for the second incarnation, as portrayed by Siobhan Redmond. In the story [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Rani Elite (audio story)|The Rani Elite]]'', the Rani alludes to having regenerated shortly after her encounter with Sixth Doctor/Seventh Doctor on Lakertya. Likewise, Siobhan Redmond's incarnation is demarked as the immediate successor to Kate O'Mara's incarnation in Vortex 70.
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| I have drafted up pages in my Sandbox for [[User:NoNotTheMemes/The Rani|all]] [[User:NoNotTheMemes/First Rani|three]] [[User:NoNotTheMemes/Second Rani|pages]], so if approval is granted on this, it can be done rather swiftly. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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| : I am in favour of this. I'm surprised it hasn't already been done actually, considering the Rani's timeline seems to be one of the simpler of the Time Lords. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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| : Seems sensible. [[User:SherlockTheII|SherlockTheII]] [[User talk:SherlockTheII|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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| ::: I definitely agree that these pages should be split. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>'''Epsilon'''</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 10:01, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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