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Is there a link for the leaked audio clip? I wouldn't mind listening to it.
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== Wrong statement ==
== Uncredited cast ==


Actually it is the second longest gap: the first being [[Day of the Daleks]] wich was a five years gap.
I've moved the uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced (not IMDB). [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:59, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
* [[Civil Servant (Victory of the Daleks)|Civil Servant]] - [[Jamal Nasir]] (uncredited)
* [[Spitfire Pilot]] (Danny Boy) - [[Mark Gatiss]] (uncredited)


::This is the statement to which the above anon poster referred:
== Most Dalek Models? ==
::* Discounting their flashback cameo in [[DW]]: ''[[The Waters of Mars]]'', this is the longest gap between Dalek stories in the New Series, at almost two years since [[Journey's End]]. It is also the first standalone Dalek episode since [[DW]]: ''[[Dalek (TV story)|Dalek]]'' in 2005 and the Dalek appears to be an earlier model, using grey armour that was last seen in [[Remembrance of the Daleks]].
::I have now removed it, because it's such a nebulous claim. If you ignore that there were Daleks in TWOM, and if you ignore the fact that thre was no series in 2009, then it's a 21-month gap. But those "ifs" are very iffy indeed. From a production standpoint, the 2009 specials are a part of series 4, so there's two Dalek appearances in the latter part of series 4, and there's one here at the top of series 5. That's not at all that big a deal. The other way of looking at it, is that there are Daleks in every series of [[BBC Wales]] DW. Very many people would not consider there to be any sort of gap in Dalek stories in 2005 DW, and would counter with the point that the Daleks have been used more frequently now than at any point in DW history.


::As for the second sentence, it's not clear at all what it is meant. What does "standalone Dalek story" mean? And there are two Dalek models in the trailer, anyway — possibly three. So who knows what that sentence means. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 18:50, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
How can "this episode holds the record for the most non-CGI Dalek models used in a single story" be true when Moffat collected so many Dalek models from different eras for Asylum of the Daleks? I would think that episode holds the record.[[Special:Contributions/69.125.134.86|69.125.134.86]]<sup>[[User talk:69.125.134.86#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:14, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm pretty sure by "standalone" they mean the first Dalek story since "Dalek" that consists of one episode [[User talk:Drophyd167b|<b><span style="color: Blue">The b-Unit's</span></b>]][[User:Drophyd167b|<b><span style="color: Orange">167th Drophyd</span></b>]] 13:57, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


Bloody hell. This sounds even worse than Catherine Tate
: Good question (but watch that preload button on these pages :)). It may have been surpassed but nobody edited it since then. Since I don't actually know, I won't be doing it. Perhaps ask at the Reference Desk.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:35, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
Having taken a look at the trailer after Eleventh Hour in slow motion, I'm not sure the pilot of the Plane flying towards the screen is human. Either that, or it's a rather strange space helmet...
 
Another wrong statement is "the Dalek Saucer seen in the dogfight with the Spitfires is the same sort as those from DW: ''Bad Wolf''/''The Parting of the Ways'' and DW: ''The Stolen Earth''/''Journey's End"''
 
The Saucers seen in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End were different than the ones seen in Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways, though they were similar. Furthermore, the saucer seen in the trailers is seen to have more weapons on the top half, while it has a strange disc firing a blue ray not present on any other models on the underside. A more appropriate statement would be "The Dalek Saucer seen in the dogfight with the Spitfires is ''similar'' to those from Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways" as it is NOT the same.
===Pictures===
The silver Dalek was fan made and the black Dalek has no relation to this story whatsoever.
 
Since the new looking daleks(White,Blue,Yellow,Red) look super new while some keep their Russel look should we say these daleks my have a higher rank than the normal daleks?-[[Special:Contributions/207.241.247.1|207.241.247.1]] 16:14, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Daleks and Radio Times ==
[[File:Radio Times.jpg|250px]]
The new issues of the Radio Times have different images on them. They have the red, blue and yellow Daleks. apparently the blue and red are produced in the same amount but less of yellow was produced, possibly showing bias towards Labour and Conservatives.
 
I also heard, although have no rock solid source, that the new Dalek colours are just so that the BBC can get more money from different colour toys. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 15:19, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
==More Dating Issues?==
I may be jumping the gun a bit, since the episode doesn't even air until tomorrow evening, but I'm sure the trailer shown after the repeat airing of "The Beast Below" tonight (16th April 2010) featured another one of these 'Production errors/dating issues' (like Rory's ID Card and Amy's age). Over Churchill's Left shoulder (to the viewer's right), there was a portrait of Queen Elizabeth wearing her crown - She wasn't Queen until 1952 and didn't have her coronation until '53. Twelve years after this episode. Look out for it tomorrow. Bet I'm shown to be wrong now I've written this! [[Special:Contributions/86.134.188.188|86.134.188.188]] 21:15, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 
: Are you sure it isn't a young Queen Mother ? The other photo is definately George V1 [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 07:10, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
== It's Official ==
 
Something is messing with the Timeline. Could factor into the ID Badge crisis?[[User:Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]] 18:12, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
No it's not anything to do with the ID Badge because Steven Moffat confirmed that was a genuine mistake of props with the date on that badge. The website to hear the interview is on the Eleventh Hour story page under story notes. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 18:14, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
Yeah, I heard about that. Still, the timelines being messed with, we should look out for that stuff in later episodes, no?. [[User:Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]] 18:21, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
Oh Yes I totally agree time things will crop up but we do need to be aware of what is genuine and what is a mistake :). -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 18:23, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
Agreed.[[User:Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]] 18:24, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
== Last two episodes line ==
 
In the article is the line "This could mean that the Daleks do not feature in the last two episodes.". Don't be absurd. They don't spend a lot of money on new Dalek models and props not to use them. It's like saying "The Doctor can regenerate, therefore this could mean Matt Smith does not feature in the last two episodes". You can't say something either way without proper sourcing. Either there's a source that they will be, or a source that they won't, or it's pure pointless speculation in a factual article. [[Special:Contributions/92.21.63.165|92.21.63.165]] 18:45, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
*I'm sitting watching Doctor Who Confidential, and Stephen Moffet said that he thinks those Daleks will be important in a future episode of Doctor Who, but that he doesn't know when. Unless he's bluffing, I doubt the Daleks will be in the finale. [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 18:51, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
*That too isn't a source on whether they will or will not for definite. You could also say "....this could mean they do not feature in the Weeping of Angels". I would bet the farm on them appearing in the final two episodes. [[Special:Contributions/92.21.63.165|92.21.63.165]] 19:01, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
I agree this statement is wrong but I also doubt they will be in the finale, if they are I will be really disapointed because we need them space Dalek stories. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 19:03, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Confused ==
 
Feeling a bit ill tonight and I am still confused about the episode...
 
What does Amy and the Doctor mean when they come to confront the Scottish Scientist babbling about 10,20,30 minutes etc.? --[[User:The Brig|The Brig]] 19:11, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
They where basically telling him to run away so they could not de-activate him but he wasn't getting what they meant until they kept adding more time before they would pretened to return to de-activate him. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 19:13, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Ahh, okay! Thanks for that - what a dope I was =P... [[User:The Brig|The Brig]] 19:27, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
== The Crack ==
 
Whilst I like the idea of a reccuring theme throughout the new series in the vain of Bad Wolf, Mr Saxon, etc. I dislike the idea of making a blatant effort to highlight it to the viewer each time. (Shining light, dramatic camera zooms, etc.) Kind of takes the fun out of listhening for it and makes it less of a suprise for viewers who aren't as attentive.
 
What do you guys think?
 
That goes to the forums, not episode talk pages.[[User:Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]] 19:35, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
Sorry, just use Wiki's for viewing mostly. My apologies.
 
-Anon 20:37, April 17, 2010 (GMT)
 
== Revelation? ==
 
Steven Moffat talked of a "revelation" about thirty minutes into the episode, saying that you would need to watch the episode twice to understand it. It could just be me, but I have no idea what this supposed revelation was. Does anybody else know? I've watched it three times and still don't have a clue what he is on about. [[User:Simson.|Simson]] 23:24, April 17, 2010 (UTC)Simson.

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Uncredited cast[[edit source]]

I've moved the uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced (not IMDB). Shambala108 03:59, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Most Dalek Models?[[edit source]]

How can "this episode holds the record for the most non-CGI Dalek models used in a single story" be true when Moffat collected so many Dalek models from different eras for Asylum of the Daleks? I would think that episode holds the record.69.125.134.86talk to me 21:14, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Good question (but watch that preload button on these pages :)). It may have been surpassed but nobody edited it since then. Since I don't actually know, I won't be doing it. Perhaps ask at the Reference Desk.--ComicBookGoddess 03:35, April 3, 2013 (UTC)