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| ==Angels Moving==
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| We see the Angels move very slightly when they grab the Doctor. One of the Angels readjust their grasp. It is obvious that this is meant to be obvious, and it is before the scene where they notice Amy isn't looking at them.
| | These actors are uncredited. Per [[Forum:What to do with uncredited cast lists]], we need sources for all these actors. As it's an episode only two years old, it shouldn't be too hard to prove. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 12:04, April 29, 2012 (UTC) |
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| ==The Doctor's Jacket====
| | * [[Weeping Angel]] - [[Louise Bowen]] (uncredited) |
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| I don't know if this is worthy of putting into the article or not, but in the ter, railer, it shows the doctor without his tweed jacket, then at the end, it shows him losing it. --[[User:Semian2|Semian2]] 23:57, April 25, 2010 (UTC)<br />
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| I noticed that this is down as a production error in the main page. If you watch closely, the Doctor loses his jacket before meeting up with the others and is then not seen with his jacket for the rest of the episode, apart from when he speaks to Amy. However, just before this his voice fades off as he moves away with River. It seems highly likely that this is a future Doctor who has crossed his own timestream (riskily!) and come to talk to Amy for a particular reason.[[User:Neil DG|Neil DG]] 22:54, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| It's too obvious to be a production error. Crazy as it sounds, your theory about a future Doctor is probably right. I don't think this should be listed as a production error. Watch the scene. Everything is different about the Doctor's demeanor when he comes back to talk to Amy. Even the way he kisses her on the forehead. It all fits. ''That'' Doctor has known her for a longer time - and has come to love her. (In a "friend" kind of way, I mean. This episode certainly shattered the idea of a Doctor/companion romance.) There must be something extremely significant in the Eleventh Hour... [[User:Bluebox444|Bluebox444]] 23:49, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| The most obvious answer is usually the correct one. Either: 1 - its a glitch, and these things can happen easily, or 2 - he went to the TARDIS wardrobe and picked out another jacket. To assume that its a future Doctor just does not fit. Don't go putting in unsubstantiated rumors without some discussion here first.-[[User:Jedman67|Jedman67]] 04:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| It wasn't just the jacket. The Doctor's sleeves were rolled up as well, and with the change in demeanor, it can't just be an error. He ws even checking in the direction 'he' went. [[Special:Contributions/71.7.130.217|71.7.130.217]] 04:53, May 2, 2010 (UTC)Mopps
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| ==Digital Spy spoilers====
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| [[http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s7/doctor-who/tubetalk/a216420/ten-teasers-about-flesh-and-stone.html]]
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| I realize these don't always turn out to be correct, but at least they seem worth mentioning the the Rumors section. Well, some of them. I'll list them here:
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| 1. Eureka! Galileo!
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| 2. Amy: "Basically we've *** up the inside of a *******."
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| 3. The Byzantium contains a forest. Yes, a forest.
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| 4. Amy: "Seven."
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| 5. There's a scene reminiscent of a scene from 'Doomsday'.
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| 6. Amy: "Six."
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| 7. What's the opposite of the moral from 'Blink'?
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| 8. River has done something very, very naughty.
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| 9. There's a very important date you'll want to mark in your diaries/iPhones/Google calendars come the end of this episode.
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| 10. The crack. We finally learn what it is and what it wants.
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| 11. Amy does something to The Doctor that prompts an epiphany. And a collection.
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| 10 certainly seems important. #8 implies that we'll get on-screen confirmation of the River-murder-prison thing. #11 substantiates the rumors that the Amy-Doctor kiss from the series trailer will be in this episode (although the fact that Amy is wearing the right clothes already did that). Of the rest, everything seems either vague or unimportant (except for #4 and #6 as fuel for the speculative "countdown as a story arc" theory). --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 21:37, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
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| It can already be confirmed that 3 is correct, since we saw the images in the trailer for Flesh And Stone. Also, in 7, the moral from Blink was "Don't Blink" so the opposite is, obviously, "Don't open your eyes." And since in the trailer for this week, we've already heard the Doctor telling Amy not to open her eyes, this is obviously important. -- [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 19:24, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Amy==
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| In one of the clips released today (before the episode), the Doctor is shown trying to get Amy to remember what he told her when she was 7, which apparently upsets the Doctor as she doesn't remember. That coupled with the fact that she doesn't remember the Daleks at all further suggests something has been tampering around with her head. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 07:37, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Amy's sudden attraction to The Doctor ==
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| It was incredibly out of character for her. Any ideas?
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| Please sign your posts. And out of character? It's completely IN character. She's had four psychiatrists, bitten them, she's nuts, she took the risk of killing thousands of people on the starship UK and she's grown up in admiration of the Doctor. Plus he's saved her life. It's hardly sudden, she's had 14 years to fall for him. [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 20:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| I agree with Hammark. This is entirely in character, though very unexpected. ~Fan555
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| I also agree with Hammark, Amy is CRAZY. Steven Moffat said it in an interview for DWM. - [[User:BillyWilliam3rd|BillyWilliam3rd]]
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| Her expression when watching him dress in The Eleventh Hour suggested she was attracted to him too I think [[User:Carnivius Prime|Carnivius Prime]] 20:28, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| I totally agree, Carnivius Prime. ~ [[User:BillyWilliam3rd|BillyWilliam3rd]]
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| Though we all have to remember that there's something VERY strange going on with Amy Pond, aside from the fact that she's crazy. I think there might be two different time lines running almost in sync with one another. After all, things don't seem to be working the way that they should! [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 01:02, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| ===The Doctor's Age===
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| He's lying about it again. At the end of the episode he protests to Amy that he is 907 years old. Now, this doesn't correspond with End of Time where he claimed he was 906. And for the Doctor it can't have been more than, what, a week since his regeneration? Of course, he could have celebrated it in that week but there's been no mention of it thus far. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 20:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| Somehow I doubt that the Doctor celebrates his birthday after 907 years. [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 20:22, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| Could you even ''begin ''to imagine the wax required for birthday candles? [[User:Ghadius|Ghadius]] 20:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)Ghadius
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| I didn't mean 'celebrate' as in 'throw a party', I meant, 'celebrate' as in, 'you're a year older now'. There was absolutely no mention of it until that point. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 20:31, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| Yeah, but we have to think wether a year works the same for the doctor, with all the wizzing around time and space. Also, at the age of 907, would he even acknowledge a birthday?[[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 20:34, May 1, 2010 (UTC)Fan555
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| == Lunar Eclipse ==
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| Ok, looking up 26th June 2010, I've discovered that it's a partial lunar eclipse that day, and stonehenge is believed to be a lunar eclipse computer. Now where have I seen stonehenge before? [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 20:25, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| You are good. To good. Are you sure you are not working for Moffat, trying to throw us off the scent? ~Fan555
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| I WISH. Let's just say, I'm very good at research. [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 20:31, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| I hven't really thought bout it. But i have aways been intrested with Stonehenge and River Song in the Series 5 trailer ~ BillyWilliam3rd
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| Could Stonehenge be the Pandorica? River says the next time the Doctor sees her, the Pandorica will open, though I didn't notice River at the Stonehenge. Will watch the trailer again though[[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 20:38, May 1, 2010 (UTC)Fan555
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| Yeah, you can just see like the back of her head or something. Its hard to spot ~ [[User:BillyWilliam3rd|BillyWilliam3rd]]
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| OMG, have we solved the Pandorica Mystery!? [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 20:41, May 1, 2010 (UTC) Fan555
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| ==References==
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| Surely the 'forest in a spaceship, viewed through a frame' is a direct nod to 'Nightmare of Eden'
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| Could Amy keeping her eyes closed and finding her way around be a nod to 'The brain of Morbius' when Sarah has been blinded?
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| The Doctor says the Byzantium is a 'Galaxy class' ship. Definite reference to The Doctor says the Byzantium is a 'Galaxy class' ship. Definite reference to The Doctor says the Byzantium is a 'Galaxy class' ship. Definite reference to The Doctor says the Byzantium is a 'Galaxy class' ship. Definite reference to Star Trek (NCC-1701-D USS Enterprise was this class).
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| ==Double Doctor?==
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| In the forest, as The Doctor, River and Father Octavion are heading to find the main flight deck, The Doctor cuffs her head and says "Amy, later!" He is wearing only his striped shirt and his suspenders on his upper body. But moments later, he returns, with his sleeves ROLLED UP (when did this happen?!) WEARING HIS JACKET. She doesn't remember what he told her when she was 7. He's visibly closer, and more afraid for her at this moment. He kisses her forehead. Next scene, he's not wearing his jacket, his sleeves are rolled down and he's far more aloof. This is way too obvious to be a production error. It's Doctor Who, guys. That's way too big. There's something we still don't know. [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 01:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| Why have you posted here: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Flesh_and_Stone#The_Doctor.27s_Jacket.3D.3D and then posted this section? - Looq 03:00, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| Because I wasn't sure if it had gone through, as my internet went all wobbly. I'll go edit it out in a moment. ALSO: that section is exclusively about the Doctor LOSING his jacket, where as this one focuses on how he seemingly didn't have a jacket, then appeared with one, and then appeared without one within a two minute frame. [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 02:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Clock problem ==
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| How do we know that it was a production error, and not something caused by the [[Time shield]]? --[[user_talk:trlkly|trlkly]] 03:22, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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