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==Broadcast date==
No offence to "Den of Geek", or to John Barrowman for that matter, but we cannot possibly suggest any broadcast dates for Series 4 at this time. They don't even have a production schedule yet. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 00:48, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


== Cartmel? ==
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== Article name ==


http://www.janetfillingham.com/writersdirect/documents/AndrewCartmelcv_001.pdf
Shouldn't the article be named 'Miracle Day (Torchwood serial)'? Same goes for '[[Series 3 (Torchwood)]]', that should be named 'Children of Earth (Torchwood serial)'. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 06:47, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
:No need. [[Torchwood: Miracle Day]] and [[Torchwood: Children of Earth]] already redirect to the series 4 and 3 articles. [[User_talk:Digifiend|<font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS"><b>Digifiend</b></font>]] 01:49, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter, it isn't called Series 4 (Torchwood), it's called Miracle Day, and so the actual title of the article should reflect this. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 05:40, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
:::It's called both. Yes, it's subtitled Miracle Day, but this is no different to Power Rangers for example - Power Rangers Zeo was season 4 of Power Rangers. The seasons have individual names but are part of the same show. Likewise, Torchwood Miracle Day is Torchwood series 4. The names don't need changing. [[User_talk:Digifiend|<font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS"><b>Digifiend</b></font>]] 00:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
::::It is not called both. It is not 'subtitled' Miracle Day. It is entitled Torchwood: Miracle Day. On advertisements, was it called Torchwood Series 4? No, it was called Miracle day in '''all''' of the promotional and marketing material. The name of the show is called Torchwood: Miracle Day, not Torchwood Series 4. The names do need changing. And Power Rangers is completely irrelevant, this is Torchwood, not Power Rangers, a completely different television series with different production. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 04:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
:I was just using that as a comparison. The point is, Series 4 is a perfectly valid name for this series. There are box sets containing all four series due out. Guess what? CoE and MD are referred to as series 3 and 4! [[User_talk:Digifiend|<font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS"><b>Digifiend</b></font>]] 08:59, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, it's a valid name, but is it the most valid? No. Of course in box sets containing all four series are going to refer to them as Series 3 and Series 4, but if you look at the individual sets, which I have done, they are called Miracle Day and Children of Earth, not 'The Complete Series/Season 3' or any similar title, because that isn't its name. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 10:15, October 3, 2011 (UTC)


Says Andrew Cartmel is writing "The Jinx" for series 4. Should it go in the rumours folder, or the official writers folder? [[User:N3onkn1ght|N3onkn1ght]] 04:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
Five months on, my point still stands. I think the article(s) should be renamed. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 09:39, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
* Better not either. Just because a script has been submitted or commissioned doesn't mean it'll get made. See [[Stephen Fry]] and [[Moris Farhi]]. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 03:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


==Article premature?==
:This article is for information relating to the fourth series of Torchwood, Miracle Day is specifically the 10 episodes that were broadcast.
I'm starting to wonder if the article is premature. Barrowman (per [http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2010/02/barrowman-not-drawn-on-torchwoods.html]) appears to be recanting whether there will be a Series 4. If he's doing Desperate Housewives he might not be available, and there's also the question of an American series. I'm not quite read to toss a proposed deletion tag on this, because there is some information to be had (i.e. the Cartmel item above), but there is a lot of unsourced speculation here, too. We should seek consensus but I would be happy to perhaps condense this all down into a subsection of the main Torchwood article until the BBC actually announces whether it's making it. We know Sarah Jane is going into production, but there's been little said for certain about Torchwood. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 03:53, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Much like [[Season 16 (Doctor Who 1963)|Season 16]] was released as "The Key to Time", we use the season number, the case is the same with [[Season 23 (Doctor Who 1963)|Season 23]] which is referred to as "The Trial of a Time Lord". In the former it's the name of the how the stories were packaged when released on VHS/DVD and in the latter it's the name of the story that covers the length of the season. In both cases the article covers information from throughout the season. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 12:25, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
== I hope it does! ==
 
I'm a massive fan of Torchwood so I hope it comes. [[User:Trikster87|Trikster87]], 12:47, 6th April 2010 (UTC)
 
== US version? ==
 
Please, please, ''please'' never let this happen. I know what happened to the superbly brilliant Life on Mars when it got 'ported' to the US, and the result is just... ''horrible''. US versions of British shows almost always suffer like that... -- [[User:Sorceror Nobody|Sorceror Nobody]] 18:58, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

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Shouldn't the article be named 'Miracle Day (Torchwood serial)'? Same goes for 'Series 3 (Torchwood)', that should be named 'Children of Earth (Torchwood serial)'. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 06:47, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

No need. Torchwood: Miracle Day and Torchwood: Children of Earth already redirect to the series 4 and 3 articles. Digifiend 01:49, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't matter, it isn't called Series 4 (Torchwood), it's called Miracle Day, and so the actual title of the article should reflect this. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 05:40, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
It's called both. Yes, it's subtitled Miracle Day, but this is no different to Power Rangers for example - Power Rangers Zeo was season 4 of Power Rangers. The seasons have individual names but are part of the same show. Likewise, Torchwood Miracle Day is Torchwood series 4. The names don't need changing. Digifiend 00:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
It is not called both. It is not 'subtitled' Miracle Day. It is entitled Torchwood: Miracle Day. On advertisements, was it called Torchwood Series 4? No, it was called Miracle day in all of the promotional and marketing material. The name of the show is called Torchwood: Miracle Day, not Torchwood Series 4. The names do need changing. And Power Rangers is completely irrelevant, this is Torchwood, not Power Rangers, a completely different television series with different production. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 04:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
I was just using that as a comparison. The point is, Series 4 is a perfectly valid name for this series. There are box sets containing all four series due out. Guess what? CoE and MD are referred to as series 3 and 4! Digifiend 08:59, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it's a valid name, but is it the most valid? No. Of course in box sets containing all four series are going to refer to them as Series 3 and Series 4, but if you look at the individual sets, which I have done, they are called Miracle Day and Children of Earth, not 'The Complete Series/Season 3' or any similar title, because that isn't its name. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 10:15, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Five months on, my point still stands. I think the article(s) should be renamed. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 09:39, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

This article is for information relating to the fourth series of Torchwood, Miracle Day is specifically the 10 episodes that were broadcast.
Much like Season 16 was released as "The Key to Time", we use the season number, the case is the same with Season 23 which is referred to as "The Trial of a Time Lord". In the former it's the name of the how the stories were packaged when released on VHS/DVD and in the latter it's the name of the story that covers the length of the season. In both cases the article covers information from throughout the season. --Tangerineduel / talk 12:25, February 9, 2012 (UTC)