User:SOTO/Forum Archive/Inclusion debates/@comment-4028641-20170322025232/@comment-4028641-20170322032439

Now the problem is that there are several non-DWU stories included in this DWU story. The following non-DWU comics are shown, in their entirety:

• High Noon Tex
• Here's Death's Head! (Dragon's Claws 5
• The Deadliest Game (Marvel Comics Presents 76)
• Priceless! (The Sensational She-Hulk 24)
• Death's Head Revisited (Death's Head 1)
• Contractual Obligations (Death's Head 2)
• High Stakes (Death's Head 3)
• Plaguedog! (Death's Head 4)
• Sudden Impact! (Death's Head 6)
• Shot By Both Sides (Death's Head 7)
• Clobberin' Time! (Death's Head 9)
• The Cast Iron Contract (Death's Head 10)

While a few of these are just put at the end with no real context, most of these are played with a direct point. "Here's a story that shows this or that," etc.

Death's Hand I and II enter a memory, which triggers the entire She-Hulk storyline Priceless! This is an original frame, only printed within The Incomplete Death's Head and nowhere else. As much as it's hard to admit, one can't comprehend the plot of this DWU-based story without every flashback included within it. If you cut out the She-Hulk comic, then the narrative just isn't complete.

The main plot often directly bleeds into them via extra panels not included in the original publications. In issue 12, Death's Head directly transitions from a flashback set in Party Animals to one in Priceless! within about two pages. Extra moments from both stories are shown within the same timeframe. Can you really cut out one of those two without disrupting the flow of the storyline?

There's two ways to look at this:

1. We can separate all of these stories from the narrative of the comic itself, allowing for us to cover the main story but not the flashbacks.
2. We can not justify separating the flashbacks from the main story, and all of the above comics must now be treated as valid sources.

I'm leaning towards the second option.

The thing is, this is a DWU comic set on a DWU planet with a DWU villain, and in the comic the characters view images from their own "universe." When a character views the events of a past comic and then discusses the comic in new scenes, it's done under the presumption that "This all happens under one roof."

How are we to talk about what happens to Tex, who is talked about in the main story, without including the comic about Tex that is shown in the flashbacks?

Trying to only cover Death's Head and his crew talking about stories they just watched would be like trying to cover the court room sections of Trial of a Timelord while calling the rest of it invalid.

I feel like there's going to be a push against this idea solely because Death's Head has been this wikia's favorite example of how to cover an oddity in the DWU. "Look at how we did Death's Head. That's how you do it." But making all of these stories valid, including the dreaded Fantastic Four comic, would muddy all of that up.

But Muddy is really what you have to deal with when you deal with a site as expansive as ours. You can't crack 60 thousand eggs and expect there not to be a mess or two.

A few of the comics that they show aren't really that relevant to the story and are actually never brought up again. But on this wikia we've been known to practice the rule of "all or nothing." And it seems to me that there are flashbacks that are essential to understanding the story, and thus it's hard to justify cutting all of them out.

But yea, that's all I have to say about that.