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== Blood of the Cybermen ==
Just a quick something and I sure it's been discussed before, but under Production Errors, shouldn't we count Amy's lack of knowledge about the Cybermen when in the timeline of the Whoniverse, she actually met them in the Video Game: Blood of the Cybermen? Nevertheless, if there is an explanation for it, we should still list it as a bullet point and then we should give a possible explanation after it in italics. What do you reckon?


The reference is on the series 5 article page, is it not? Plus, nearly every title this series that has been given beforehand has come true and the events of the finale were refered to as "The Pandorica Opens" in Flesh and Stone, and the title was given long before then. Heck, The Eleventh Hour title was given long before it aired, and people wouldn't accept it. The likliness is that this is the title, so let's stop being so damn highhorse. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 00:57, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 15:15, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
:The box inside the Production Errors section clearly says to use the [[Forum:Doctor Who television discontinuity and plot holes/The Pandorica Opens|Discontinuity discussion]]. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 15:19, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


== Delete the page ==
== These Cybermen are Mondas Cybermen? ==
I don't think these Cybermen are from Pete's world.  That makes no sense. River Song said they had spaceships, implying they were from outer-space instead of an alternate reality.  The new series "Pete's world" cybermen redesign has sort of replaced the old Mondas appearance.  In "A Good Man Goes to War" the 12th Cyber Legion, who also should be Mondas Cybermen, appear as the new redesigned Pete's world models as well.  Also, in the graphic novel "Assimilation2" the Mondas cybermen appear as Pete's World redesigns as well.


The title is yet-to-be confirmed, until then this page mustn't exist![[User:Drwhobg|Drwhobg]] 09:05, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
I think it is safe to say these are Mondas Cybermen


no need to delete, news report of title confirmation here http://www.kasterborous.com/2010/05/18/episode-12-title-revealed/ [[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revanvolatrelundar]] 17:01, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
== Slitheen? ==
How did we determine that these were [[Slitheen]] specifically and not [[Raxacoricofallapatorian]]? I don't recall are narrative information to that effect. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:47, April 20, 2013 (UTC)


== Ridiculous Rumours ==
River specifically says "Slitheen".--[[User:Jasontank|Jasontank]] [[User talk:Jasontank|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:54, May 30, 2013 (UTC)


With this being the series finale, we are constantly going to be givin lots of rumours on the page, some which have been around for a while or some that we are going to have heard by someone who made up. We need to have all rumours sourced to help the page from getting constantly being barmbarded with pathetic rumours, if not they will be deleted. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 08:39, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
== unsourced cast ==
Moving unsourced uncredited cast here until it can be '''properly''' sourced. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:39, November 6, 2016 (UTC)
* Roman Extras - The Ermine Street Guard
* Blowfish - Chris Barber


Are you expecting the Rani rumours to surface like every other year? To be honest, there are pretty much few rumours this finale because of the lack of info. All we really know is something to do with a load of aliens featuring and Stonehenge and River Song. The only pure rumour is Omega. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 13:36, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Just rewatching the episode and I noticed a big error, in my opinion. When River goes to Amy's house, she finds a book of the romans which also happens to have a photo of Amy and Rory in it. If Rory had never existed that photo should not exist, unless the TARDIS is able to land into the original timeline that was not altered by Rory's death and subsequent erasure. Thoughts?


==For now and unmessyness==
== Uncredited cast ==
Until it confirmed and the episode airs it is hard to determine which aliens who are appearing will be a villain/enemy so I have placed all confirmed appearances of previous aliens in the story notes section until it is actually confirmed who will be the villains as it helps to stop people messing with the infobox. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 11:54, May 22, 2010 (UTC).
Moving uncredited cast here until it can be properly sourced. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:16, July 27, 2019 (UTC)
 
* [[Dalek]]s/[[Cyberman (Pete's World)|Cybermen]] (voice) - [[Nicholas Briggs]]
==Enemies==
Just putting this here as I don't want to go putting it on every talk page of the enemies appearing. Shouldn't we wait until they appear before saying that they are an Eleventh Doctor enemy or appear in these episodes? It may just be a false rumour for all we know. Or a trick. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:35, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
It's not a rumours, it's actually supposed to be confirmed from those who get the biggest spoilers. They saw various filmimg images that revealed all of those enemies appearing in the finale, but they aren't aloud to make the pictures public until a certain date, or they could get into big trouble with the BBC. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 01:43, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
What if things that fall into the time cracks appear in the Pandorica? That would explain the Cybermen and Daleks?
 
==Omega and the Dark Tower/Death Zone==
To the best of my knowledge, the only source for Omega is "some video on YouTube said that someone on the set saw someone who looked like Omega come out of the Pandorica". (And I wasn't able to find such a video, but then I'm not sure what to search for.) Is that really enough to qualify as a rumor?
 
And the only source for the Dark Tower/Death Zone seems to be an anonymous blogger and a 13-year-old video blogger who both came to the conclusion that if there are lots of different enemies, the Death Zone is probably involved. The video blogger also based this on the hoaxed name for episode 13, "Enemies of a Time Lord".
 
If we're going to include these rumors at all, I think it's worth putting more than a fact tag. Maybe we could say that these are completely unsourced in mainstream media and are only the speculation of a few fans. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 07:24, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

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Blood of the Cybermen[[edit source]]

Just a quick something and I sure it's been discussed before, but under Production Errors, shouldn't we count Amy's lack of knowledge about the Cybermen when in the timeline of the Whoniverse, she actually met them in the Video Game: Blood of the Cybermen? Nevertheless, if there is an explanation for it, we should still list it as a bullet point and then we should give a possible explanation after it in italics. What do you reckon?

TheFartyDoctor talk 15:15, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
The box inside the Production Errors section clearly says to use the Discontinuity discussion. -- Tybort (talk page) 15:19, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

These Cybermen are Mondas Cybermen?[[edit source]]

I don't think these Cybermen are from Pete's world. That makes no sense. River Song said they had spaceships, implying they were from outer-space instead of an alternate reality. The new series "Pete's world" cybermen redesign has sort of replaced the old Mondas appearance. In "A Good Man Goes to War" the 12th Cyber Legion, who also should be Mondas Cybermen, appear as the new redesigned Pete's world models as well. Also, in the graphic novel "Assimilation2" the Mondas cybermen appear as Pete's World redesigns as well.

I think it is safe to say these are Mondas Cybermen

Slitheen?[[edit source]]

How did we determine that these were Slitheen specifically and not Raxacoricofallapatorian? I don't recall are narrative information to that effect. --ComicBookGoddess ☎ 03:47, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

River specifically says "Slitheen".--Jasontank ☎ 01:54, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

unsourced cast[[edit source]]

Moving unsourced uncredited cast here until it can be properly sourced. Shambala108 ☎ 05:39, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

  • Roman Extras - The Ermine Street Guard
  • Blowfish - Chris Barber

Just rewatching the episode and I noticed a big error, in my opinion. When River goes to Amy's house, she finds a book of the romans which also happens to have a photo of Amy and Rory in it. If Rory had never existed that photo should not exist, unless the TARDIS is able to land into the original timeline that was not altered by Rory's death and subsequent erasure. Thoughts?

Uncredited cast[[edit source]]

Moving uncredited cast here until it can be properly sourced. Shambala108 ☎ 04:16, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

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