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Why is it now assumed that Rory Williams is Amy Pond's fiance? There is no evidence for this. All we know is that Rory is Amy's "sort of" boyfriend, and that two years later she is engaged to someone who MIGHT be Rory, but we don't actually KNOW. Stop writing this as if it is undoubted fact, when it is NOT.
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I agree that we shouldn't jump to conclusions, but it IS the most likely outcome. Also, sign your posts, please.[[User:Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]] 11:32, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
== One last bit of love for Rory ==
:Is it? Rory's reaction to the mention of Jeff's name makes him at least a plausible romantic interest, even though filming reports point to Rory's presence in more episodes. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 22:34, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
The 'Vampires in Venice' script leak heavily implies that it's Amy and Rory getting married and the trip to Venice is a wedding present. So there is evidence for it. I do agree though that articles shouldn't bear this kind of info unless in a rumours section until broadcast.[[Special:Contributions/86.134.188.188|86.134.188.188]] 12:13, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
::Yep, I know of the leaked script. But the point is we can't go off of stuff like that, cause we only have a portion. Even if that does actually make it into the final edit, and there's evidence that it probably does from various trailers, it's not necessarily so straightforward. For instance, Amy could have been engaged to him, given him back the ring, gotten engaged to someone else. The Doctor could believe that she made a mistake, so he's taking Rory along to give them a chance to rekindle their relationship. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 16:03, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
:Right then, let me just point something out: The exact line the Doctor says when he pops out of the cake at ''Rory's'' bachelor party is "Your fiance kissed me" You see him kissing anyone else recently? (It happened during Vampire's of Venice)
== What the Doctor isn't saying... ==


Technology: Laptop Computer with video confrence capabilities. Cell phones all over the place, with cameras.
A neat bit of trivia, but not sure that it would belong on the page proper:  If Rory was 31 when sent back in time (to 1938), and died when he was 82, he would have died the year Amy was born, and the year that the original series was cancelled: 1989.  '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090>•</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF>·</font>]]''' 14:48, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
:I haven't followed the debate that closely, but has it been established (with sources) that they went back specifically to 1938? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:08, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
:: It hasn't. And it's also been pointed out that the tombstone looks rather old for something that supposedly dates to the late 1980s. All we know is that Amy was still alive at the time the novel was written (that or River located her in time in order for her to write the forward). It's possible the novella ''The Angel's Kiss'' might shed some light. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:37, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
:::afterward[[Special:Contributions/108.246.48.79|108.246.48.79]]<sup>[[User talk:108.246.48.79#top|talk to me]]</sup> 02:53, November 17, 2013 (UTC)


Rory's badge, which they zoomed in on purpose: Date of issue: 30,11, 1990


Assumed date the bulk of the story takes place: 2008 or 2010 (depending on if the 'two years later' put it in the current year, or two years ahead of us)
== First Time Together on the TARDIS ==
The italicized text is a little absurd.  Are we really going with the literal interpretation of the Doctor's words?  He was obviously referring to the first time Amy and Rory had sex on the TARDIS.--[[User:Trebligoniqua|Trebligoniqua]] [[User talk:Trebligoniqua|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:00, January 30, 2013 (UTC)


This would mean Rory has been a nurse for 18-20 years. He said he was made to dress up as the Raggedy Doctor when 'we were kids' to Amy Pond. To go through schooling and become a nurse, he'd have to be 20 or so years old. This would mean that he is roughly 40 in the main portion of the story? I don't think so. We never see the date, and only see cell phones and laptops which indicate it is near 2010. Either Rory has a false ID (he was also in the coma ward, when his ID says emergency ward), Rory is impossibly older than he should be, or something is out-of-time with technology. The doctor notices the camera phones, and notices Rory's 1990 issued badge.


== "The Pretty One" ==


There is an error in the main aliases for Rory Williams. It indicates that he was known as "The pretty one". That actually refers to the character in the Eleventh Hour who had the laptop. When told by Amy that she was getting married The Doctor asks "The pretty one or..." and makes the sign with his hand indicating the guy with the big nose and says "the other one?" She says "The other one".


Is something up with Rory, time / technology, or the Doctor himself?
Hope this helps.


[[Special:Contributions/216.153.224.108|216.153.224.108]] 09:25, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/69.212.164.105|69.212.164.105]]<sup>[[User talk:69.212.164.105#top|talk to me]]</sup> 02:14, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
*The production error is a killer, but my mind is saying that the Doctor was still "cooking", so his brain isn't functioning correctly. Which is why he saw 1990 instead of another number. That's how I'm choosing to see it. [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 08:56, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


:While you are right, I think this is referring to [[Idris]] calling him that. The Doctor thinks she's referring to Amy, specifically because of what you mentioned. Anyways, I hope this answers your question. [[file:SmallerOnTheOutside.png|15px]] [[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 02:39, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


:: Smaller is right. The reference comes from ''[[The Doctor's Wife (TV story)]]''. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:48, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


It doesn't matter though, because according to [[Forum:Notable Aliases]] it shouldn't be in the infobox in the first place. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:06, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


Maybe the person who printed the badge at the hospital made a typo and didn't notice. When Rory noticed and asked for a new one they couldn't be bothered to reprint and laminate just for a few digits so they told him to tipex it but, shock horror, he couldn't find any. Isn't that a bit more realistic than trying to reconcile 1990 with 2010?[[Special:Contributions/82.45.232.218|82.45.232.218]] 20:51, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
: Iris considered "The Pretty One" to be Rory's name. Thus it is an alias. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 03:09, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


== /Him and Amy? ==
She doesn't think it's Rory's name, she's asking which one's Amy:
::DOCTOR: Can you get a message to Amy? The telepathic circuits are online.
::IDRIS: Which one's Amy? The pretty one?
It's not notable and it's not used more than once, so by the forum guidelines, it should be removed. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:28, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


gah it's just not meant to be... SURELY you'd go for the one who you've made cartoons of your whole life? Why does Rory have to get in the way of Amy and her "raggedy doctor", eh?[[Special:Contributions/81.141.161.91|81.141.161.91]] 01:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Check again.
:: Rory: It's like I'm getting a masage
:: Idris: ''Hello Pretty''
:: Doctor: No, that's rory
:: Blah Blah Blah
:: The Doctor: ''The Pretty One?!?'' [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 03:53, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


== Species ==


Under species it says 'human'  shouldn't there be an auton reference here?{{Unsigned-anon|108.246.48.79}}


Dude, I couldn't have put it better myself! this is why i don't like rory's character so much. he keeps getting in the way!
:No. The species field of the infobox can only take '''one''' name, and it has been decided that we always put only the original species. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
==Doctor Likes Him?==
Um, is that little bit at the end of the page really necessary? The one about the Doctor liking him a lot. Shouldn't just be in the personality bit or something???[[Special:Contributions/81.154.143.161|81.154.143.161]] 17:58, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 
Just put it this way, be glad he didn't say that about Jack... *shudders* #<strike>'''OO'''</strike>#
 
==Name badge==
 
It clearly states on the bade that 1990 was the date of issue NOT the current date. So why is there that section at the bottom about it? :S [[User:Matta jr|Matta jr]] 00:59, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Think about how old he would have to be if the badge was issued 20 years prior to the current date. Let's say 4 years of training as a nurse, and he would have had to be at least 16 at that point, making him 40 in 2010. He was a childhood friend of Amy Pond, and she is 21 years old (born 1989) in 2010. That's why there's that section at the bottom. [[Special:Contributions/79.79.142.235|79.79.142.235]] 01:21, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
==Time Loss?==
 
Quote from the article, "...in the same latter episode, the clock in Amy's bedroom jumped from 11:59am June 25th to 12pm June 26th, one entire day missed in one second - and it was night time outside." Was it definately 11:59am to 12pm or could it just be a continuity error where the am and pm bits were mixed up, would make more sense. Also see the fact that it's night outside lending towards the clock meaning to show 11:59 pm June 25th - 12 am June 26th. [[Special:Contributions/144.173.212.40|144.173.212.40]] 03:36, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Erasure? ==
 
* Did anybody else notice that in '''Cold Blood''', after Rory is supposed to be erased, the engagement ring box is still seen in the Tardis? [[User:Poggin|Poggin]] 13:11, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
* God point. Could that mean the the return of Rory? --[[User:TenCents|Edward Rankin]] ([[User talk: TenCents|<font size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:12, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
* Could be as there have been some rumors that he will return in the series finale as a roman soldier i might as well be wrong but i think the crack is like a resurrectuer it might be bad but it might use him like a slave maybe thats why he might be returning as a roman soldier [[User:The mysterious|The mysterious]] 14:19, May 30, 2010 (UTC)<br />
 
Oh My God! Don't you get it. The person is removed from time. All other events up until then happen still, they are just forgotten about. Well, I would guess all pictures of Rory would be gone too, just Rory is now gone, his house will still be there and his belongings possibly. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 14:42, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
*On the subject of his return, we know that the cracks erase people from time, and that they can allow passage, so why not both? Perhaps the cracks removed Rory from existence here and transported him through time. As for the ring? As Solar Dragon said, a change in events in the past do not affect the events happening presently. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 14:50, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
*But wwhat about that piece of the TARDIS, what was it doing in the crack. Does that mean it was the source of the crack and that piece of the TARDIS was shrapnel from an explosion. Could the Doctor be indirectly responsible for Rory's erasure ~Serial-Doodler~
 
== Rory gone forever? ==
 
In Cold Blood Rory is supposedly wiped from existance by the crack, no-one remembers him but the Doctor (despite his efforts to stop Amy forgetting him). But, there are rumours he'll appear in the season finale plus the fact that at the beginning of Cold Blood he placed the engagement ring in the TARDIS. Perhaps it'll be used in some way to bring him back as the TARDIS usually remains unaffected by changes in the timestream and they wouldn't just show us it for nothing, would they...<br />
Exactly what i was thinking, but its just speculation for now.
 
: It is highly likely that Rory is coming back, for more reason than narrative imperative and the fact that we've seen him in a trailer. A future version of Rory was seen at the beginning of [[The Hungry Earth]], unless the Doctor was lying. Now I can quite believe that Rory's future timeline would be wiped at the same time as his past timeline when he was swallowed by the crack - however, if the crack hadn't been there Rory would still have been killed by Restac (I don't believe he would have survived even if he hadn't been next to it). So the Rory that was seen at the beginning of The Hungry Earth has either already been reclaimed from the crack (in which case the crack saved his life in some manner), or is a completely different version fetched from a version of reality where he never got killed or consumed by the crack in the first place. There is no reason to believe that the future Rory wasn't there at the end of [[Cold Blood]] - he might have been hiding, or been absent for some other reason when Amy and the Doctor came out of the TARDIS.
I've just noticed something else though, you know that Amy's supposed to be orpharned and lived with her aunt, well it's been comfirmed that Amy's mum will be starring in the series finale along with River Song, the Tenth Doctor and Rory.
 
: I think it goes without saying that Rory will be back in some capacity to be honest, they made too much of a big deal of showing him put the engadgement ring in the TARDIS and the Doctor's reaction to it after Amy has forgotten Rory. And on a side note, do try and remember to sign your posts please :) <span style="color:green;">'''Lyco'''</span> 03:10, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
::The fact that future Rory was seen at the start of [[The Hungry Earth]] doesn't mean anything. The Doctor explains as much to Amy--they future Amy and Rory she saw are just one possible future, and history can change. And at the end of [[Cold Blood]], after Amy has forgotten Rory, she sees only herself waving (although she briefly thought she saw someone else), and remembers only having seen herself earlier.
 
::If you want to know about spoilers (and presumably you do, or you wouldn't be asking what's going to happen later), Arthur Darvill (who plays Rory) has been photographed on the set of episode 13, [[The Big Bang]], at or near Stonehenge in Roman Britain in 102 AD, wearing what's been described as "Roman armor" and "a Roman auxiliary uniform". This doesn't prove that he's playing Rory--he could be some ancient relative of Rory, or just some guy who happens to look like him--but the obvious guess seems to be that Rory actually went back in time to the opening of the Pandorica (which is hidden inside Stonehenge) rather than being erased from time.
 
::And I'll bet that the ring is important in some way in that episode. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 04:15, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Rory = >:O ==
 
Seriously, am i the only persson who hates rorys guts! I liked Mickey because it was a new idea, but Rory is no differant and therefore cliche!
 
 
 
(Please don't take this the wrong way. I like the actor, Arthur Darvill, i just don't think Steven Moffat gave him a very original character to play.)
 
 
 
GOOD RIDDANCE!
 
[[Special:Contributions/90.202.74.73|90.202.74.73]] 14:29, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

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One last bit of love for Rory[[edit source]]

A neat bit of trivia, but not sure that it would belong on the page proper: If Rory was 31 when sent back in time (to 1938), and died when he was 82, he would have died the year Amy was born, and the year that the original series was cancelled: 1989. d ●•· 14:48, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't followed the debate that closely, but has it been established (with sources) that they went back specifically to 1938? Shambala108 ☎ 00:08, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
It hasn't. And it's also been pointed out that the tombstone looks rather old for something that supposedly dates to the late 1980s. All we know is that Amy was still alive at the time the novel was written (that or River located her in time in order for her to write the forward). It's possible the novella The Angel's Kiss might shed some light. 70.72.211.35talk to me 15:37, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
afterward108.246.48.79talk to me 02:53, November 17, 2013 (UTC)


First Time Together on the TARDIS[[edit source]]

The italicized text is a little absurd. Are we really going with the literal interpretation of the Doctor's words? He was obviously referring to the first time Amy and Rory had sex on the TARDIS.--Trebligoniqua ☎ 04:00, January 30, 2013 (UTC)


"The Pretty One"[[edit source]]

There is an error in the main aliases for Rory Williams. It indicates that he was known as "The pretty one". That actually refers to the character in the Eleventh Hour who had the laptop. When told by Amy that she was getting married The Doctor asks "The pretty one or..." and makes the sign with his hand indicating the guy with the big nose and says "the other one?" She says "The other one".

Hope this helps.

69.212.164.105talk to me 02:14, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

While you are right, I think this is referring to Idris calling him that. The Doctor thinks she's referring to Amy, specifically because of what you mentioned. Anyways, I hope this answers your question. SmallerOnTheOutside.png SOTO ☎ 02:39, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
Smaller is right. The reference comes from The Doctor's Wife (TV story). OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 02:48, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't matter though, because according to Forum:Notable Aliases it shouldn't be in the infobox in the first place. Shambala108 ☎ 03:06, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Iris considered "The Pretty One" to be Rory's name. Thus it is an alias. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 03:09, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

She doesn't think it's Rory's name, she's asking which one's Amy:

DOCTOR: Can you get a message to Amy? The telepathic circuits are online.
IDRIS: Which one's Amy? The pretty one?

It's not notable and it's not used more than once, so by the forum guidelines, it should be removed. Shambala108 ☎ 03:28, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Check again.

Rory: It's like I'm getting a masage
Idris: Hello Pretty
Doctor: No, that's rory
Blah Blah Blah
The Doctor: The Pretty One?!? OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 03:53, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Species[[edit source]]

Under species it says 'human' shouldn't there be an auton reference here?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.246.48.79 (talk).

No. The species field of the infobox can only take one name, and it has been decided that we always put only the original species. Shambala108 ☎ 02:59, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
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