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| ==No Sources== | | == Uncredited cast == |
| The Page needs deleting and protecting, the page constantly gets made once a week because people think its going to be one of the titles for a series 5 story. Well if it is, give a source please people. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 15:25, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
| | Moving uncredited cast here until it can be properly sourced. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:03, July 27, 2019 (UTC) |
| | | * [[79B Aickman Road|Auto Pilot]] - [[Darrell Heath]] |
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| in doctor who series 5 the lodger at the top of the stairs is a cyber converter
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| Why has the deletion banner been thrown up so quickly? People seem convinced this is the name of the episode, so why don't we leave it and just change it if its wrong? Removing deletion banner until we have a rational agreement to this. [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 15:27, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| There is no definite source. Added the delete template again. Without a reliable source, it should be deleted. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 15:45, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| There Is a reliable source now from the BBC Doctor who website itself. You can't get any more reliable or definite than this. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 15:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| So suddenly the BBC doesn't know the name of the Dr Who episodes. It is the Official website, and therefore an official source. [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 15:48, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| Sorry. Just seen it and removed the template. Should have looked more thoroughly first. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 15:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| "Craig will either die or join the Doctor by the end of this episode. Another possibility is the the Doctor will offer him a trip, but Craig will decline." - so we have three options: he'll die, live and not go with the Doctor, or live and go with the Doctor. There are no other options. So in other words this adds nothing at all. I move to delete this "rumour".
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| :Good point, deleted it. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] 17:19, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| Now titled Don't Go Up the Stairs by the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/tv/2010/wk24/sat.shtml#sat_doctorwho [[User:Mennenennen|Mennenennen]] 13:26, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Yep. You got there before me. Name change time. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]])</sup></span>☆ 13:31, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::And I just changed it back, due to DWM Editor Tom Spilsbury's post on Gallifrey Base: 'The title is 'The Lodger'. The press office is out of date.' http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2381523&postcount=43
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| ==Craig==
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| Shouldn't craig be a companion? [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 19:50, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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| :No. {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 20:01, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Going by the standard implied by [[List of companions]] and other articles, Craig should be on the list of "disputed companions", marked as a companion here, etc.
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| ::But, if you look at [[Forum:Disputed Companions]], there's currently a discussion going on about who we should count as companions, and nobody involved likes the current implied standard. So, I don't think anyone wants to add more companions that are just going to be removed later. If you think people like Craig (and Lynda Moss and the existing disputed companions) should be listed, you should go comment on that forum thread. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 20:13, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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| == up the stairs ==
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| when it says the stairs people go up and never come down it will either be ailens are takeing them or there is a crack (wormhole type) up there just constantly takeing anyone who goes up into a diffrent part of the universe
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| [[User:Drwhoworld|Drwhoworld]] 09:38, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| : Not necessarily. It could be a murderer. On another note, the Doctor says "Is this how time passes? Really slowly and in the right order?" in Vincent and the Doctor. This week will kill him. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 09:08, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
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| : If it's a crack, they'd forget people who went upstairs, but in the trailer, the other two seem to remember the last person to go upstairs (the woman asks "what is he doing up there?"). Someone I know reckons it might be Cybermen because they're in the finale?[[Special:Contributions/90.210.32.122|90.210.32.122]] 13:28, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Title==
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| I've recently noticed the number of titles for this episode. Where did they all come from?
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| "This episode was mistakenly entitled '''Reality Check''', '''A Clinical Finish''', '''Don't Go Up the Stairs'''"
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| And now this new one thats appeared out of nowhere, ''''Something At the Top of the Stairs''''.
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| Please do explain!!
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| [[User:Who7|Who7]] 16:12, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Don't Go Up the Stairs was on the BBC website for a short period before it was changed to The Lodger again. {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 16:14, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
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| :And I've never heard of a rumoured episode title 'Something at the Top of the Stairs'. What kind of a title is that ?
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| :[[User:Who7|Who7]] 16:24, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
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| == trail ==
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| watching the trailer on the website, i notice that the voice coming from the intercom on the door is different to the voice heard in the trailer shown after episode 10. should we make anything of this?[[Special:Contributions/90.210.32.122|90.210.32.122]] 13:23, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| Just watched this and noticed it too. Maybe its the voice of the previous person (that whatever the cause is) taking people away therefore it takesaway 2 people so far. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 14:43, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| Trailer: '''"Hello, I need your help, there's been an accident!"'''
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| Preview: '''"Hello, Hello scuse me, can you help me please?"'''
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| Hmm which one sounds better?
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| [[User:Who7|Who7]] 18:20, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Trailer Differences==
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| Well good pointing out there, whoever 90.210.32.122 is! Following on from that there are actually a lot of differences!
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| 1: The Voice
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| 2: Zooming into the intercom and the shadow thing. (One zooms in closer than the other)
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| 3: The beeping noice as the man walks up the stairs
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| 4: The crash before the women says, '''"What is he doing up there?"''' (Not heard in the bbc website preview)
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| Anyone notice any more differences?
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| [[User:Who7|Who7]] 18:34, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Materialisation Loop==
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| It has been confirmed by Digital Spy that the TARDIS and Amy are stuck in a materialisation Loop. [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 17:03, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| == SFX Preview 20 teasers ==
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| See http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/06/09/the-lodger-preview/
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| #The first line is very funny
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| #A guest character from last week’s episode shows up a few times
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| #There’s the first gay allusion this series (sort of)
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| #The Doctor has more interesting adventures with food and drink
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| #Matt Smith fans will be freeze-framing one particular revealing moment
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| #A can of beer is opened at an important moment
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| #The Doctor commits an act of physical violence, sort of…
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| #A certain face shows up for the fourth time this series; another for a third; and others for a second time
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| #There’s lots of witty dialogue
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| #A regal couple put in an appearance
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| #Amy discovers something
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| #One of the most uttered phrases of series five comes up again
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| #It’s the most unusual ever episode of Doctor Who Confidential!
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| #It’s back
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| #Someone says the G-word
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| #There’s a monster’s hand in a drawer
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| #The psychic paper serves several purposes
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| #It’s rather a sweet love story and James Corden is actually quite likeable
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| #Someone says, “I love you”
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| #The Doctor is helped by some feline intuition
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| Some of these are revelead in the preview, next time and other 4 BBC clips ...
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| 2 Van Gogh piccy on the fridge (but Craig hasn't been to the exhibition in Paris)
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| 3 Craig telling about his and Mark's arrangement bringing back a girl / boyfriend
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| 4 Salad cream in an omelette
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| 5 bath towel
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| 8 More previous Dr's
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| 11 The engagement ring ?
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| 12 Bow ties are cool ?
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| 14 the crack ?
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| 15 Ginger? Gravity ?
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| Any further thoughts? [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 08:13, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| 7. A tackle during football?
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| 8. The first for the fourth, third for the second and second for some others.
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| 15. Gallifrey? Although I suppose it will be ginger, y'know, to do with the controversy.
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| 19. James Cordon, as seen in the trailer.
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| 20. A cat?
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| --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 12:55, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| 15. Geronimo? [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 18:58, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| 15 - o come on guys excuse my language but its GIT [[User:Who7|Who7]] 19:17, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| *I doubt it's git. I think it is ginger. It's referring to the whole ginger controversy which is a touchy subject right now. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 19:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| *I think number 7 was the headbutt. And the mind-sharing was why Craig said Geronimo. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.54.155|95.148.54.155]] 22:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC) | |
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| == New picture ==
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| See http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/more-on-the-lodger-6181.htm for a new picture of a coffin type box and Sophie seems to have a hand missing, (does this link to the teaser about a monster's hand in a drawer?), and a quote both from latest DWM issue [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 06:32, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Enemy ==
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| What should we class as the enemy of this episode then? The hologram or the Makeshift TARDIS? {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 18:44, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| :The hologram was just a function of the makeshift TARDIS, so we should list the TARDIS. [[Special:Contributions/76.210.69.11|76.210.69.11]] 19:15, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Tardis?==
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| The doctors line of "Someone has tried to build a tardis" Makes me think this isn't a crashed time lord vehicle, but a time machine some other alien race has attempted to build. Any one else agree?[[User:A Pickering|A Pickering]] 19:15, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| I'd prefer it to be an alien race than the Time Lords ( - unless it's Omega). One thing I will point out though - a home made Tardis and still not that Blue Peter competition winners console. When's it gonna go in?[[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 21:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| Are there pictures from the Blue Peter console design? It wasn't necessarily going to make it into the show; the design would "feature in some way" towards the end of the season.
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| And not to mention; the TARDIS is old tech by Gallifrey's standard. It's highly probably that another advanced race came across a decommissioned TARDIS somewhere along the line, or the plans for one, and attempted to build their own. You would wonder why we haven't seen one before, especially since the Time Lords went *kablooey*. -[[User:Jedman67|Jedman67]] 04:51, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| The control pannels of the "TARDIS" had dome-like controls. Possibly Dalek Technology?
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| :Please sign your posts with four tilde (~) symbols... especially since I think you're on to something. It certainly looked Dalek-y (Dalekish? Dalekesque?) to me as well; the structure over the controls reminded me of the Dalek Emperor back in parting of the ways. [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 06:17, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::The Daleks have already built [[DARDIS]]es in the past, apparently from reverse-engineered Time Lord technology. So there's no reason to believe other sufficiently-advanced races couldn't do something similar. Also, the Doctor calls it an "alien timeship", which I don't think he'd say about a TARDIS. Nor would he say that "someone has tried to build a TARDIS" if it actually were one. Plus, it's clearly designed for 4 people, not 6, it doesn't appear to be dimensionally transcendental, it doesn't seem to be alive, and the default "true" shape looks like an insectiform spaceship rather than a featureless metal box. So, I'd say the original poster and most of the followups are almost certainly right.
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| ::As for it being the Daleks--well, again, copying a TARDIS is old news to them. Their DARDIS did pretty much everything the TARDIS did, and they apparently abandoned it for better forms of time travel, forms that apparently would have been good enough to beat the Time Lords if it weren't for Rassilon's Final Sanction and the Doctor ending the war. And they had much better tech than this (even not including the stolen Eye of Time) in ''City of the Daleks''. So, I don't think it's them.
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| ::But someone could have built it from reverse-engineered Dalek technology, rather than Time Lord technology. Maybe the Doctor didn't do as good a job destroying the plans in VotD. Maybe the DARDIS that brought Ian and Barbara home and then self destructed wasn't totally destroyed. And think of how many other planets the Daleks have interacted with besides Earth. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 08:06, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Production error. ==
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| after craig touches the 'rot' in the ceiling he falls ill the next morning. when the doctor discovers him in bed he rushes to the kitchen and stuffs about ten teabags into the pot which he then makes craig drink. however, when the doctor is sat on his bed with the full teacup in his hand, the camera that is focusing on craig from over his shoulder clearly shows a teapot only half full of clear water.
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| : Its not clear, you can clearly see tea dribbling down his face after the drinking from the spout. [[Special:Contributions/83.104.138.141|83.104.138.141]] 22:57, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Star Trek in-joke==
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| Definitely a reference to Star Trek :Voyager towards the end when the Doctor says 'State the nature of the emergency' and then refers to the 'Emergency Crash Hologram'. In Voyager, the Doctor was an Emergency Medical Hologram who, when activated, usually said, 'Please state the nature of the medical emergency.' [[User:Neil DG|Neil DG]] 22:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| I saw that too, and there was also the rather violent version of the Vulcan Mindmeld, y'know the headbutt. Maybe the writer was a fan or something ~Coolio~
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| It struck me more as a reference to Thunderbirds... "Captain ... of International Rescue. Please state the nature of your emergency." [[Special:Contributions/121.208.92.214|121.208.92.214]] 05:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Gareth Roberts Signature?==
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| When Amy uses the magnifying glass, is this a reference to the the [[Graeme Harper]] signature, last seen in DW: The Unicorn and the Wasp?
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| :Please sign your posts with four tildes (~). Anyway, unless Gareth Roberts thought Harper was going to be directing this episode, I doubt he'd write something specifically to be used that way. Not to mention that Harper never has any problem including his signature scene no matter what the writers give him. Also, ''[[The Unicorn and the Wasp]]'' definitely wasn't the last time we've seen that. I don't remember anything in ''[[The Waters of Mars]]'', but there's the mirrors scene in ''[[Turn Left]]'' and the fish-eye window scene in ''[[Journey's End]]''. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 03:21, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==A very odd picture...==
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| Did anyone else notice the portrait on the wall between Craig and Sophie at about minute 25? Anybody have any idea what that was? [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 05:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==The back of Amy's note==
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| [[File:Amy's note (reverse).png|thumb|right|An SD screencap of the back of the note--please replace with an HD if you have one...]]
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| When the Doctor shows Amy's note to Craig and then turns it around to look at it (31:50), there's clearly something printed on the back. The top row (it's upside-down, so bottom to us) is in large caps and says something like "PO?? C????" (or maybe that "C" is an "O"), and then there's a second row in smaller type.
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| If anyone recorded he show in 1080p an can get a screencap, I'll be your best friend in the whole wide world and love you forever and ever.
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| Even though it's probably nothing ("POST CARD" or something like that). --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 06:01, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Since I'm not ready for that level of commitment, I'm not going to post a screencap, but it does just say "POST CARD". [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 06:18, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Character brief appearances ==
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| Since flashbacks of the Doctors and other enemies appear briefly, should we add these to their list of appearances or not? {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 06:57, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| :There's a bit of a discussion about the list of appearances on [[Forum:Villains Navigation templates]] (as well as a tiny bit in some other threads). Judging by what Tangerineduel said there, I believe the "list of appearances" pages are supposed to include even flashback cameos, but they don't go anywhere but those list pages. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]]
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| ::Yep. Just realised that as I was looking through the pages. Starting to add them in. {{User:Solar Dragon/Signature}} 07:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Junior Masterchef ==
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| Did Matt Smith really win Junior Masterchef? I got the impression that was part of a windup by James Corden.
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| == Picture ==
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| I did wonder if that picture in the hallway was an amalgamation of the faces of all the doctors, as that has been a recurring feature of the series, but on closer observation, have decided that if it is they have chosen the least recognisable (and least attractive!) features of each one. [[Special:Contributions/81.141.81.53|81.141.81.53]] 07:24, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| == discontinuity template ==
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| the discontinuity template doesn't link to the right place, it links to just "The Lodger" without the (TV story) bit
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| can someone edit the template/set the parameters right? i'm not too sure of it myself[[User:Lord Aro|Lord Aro]] 07:44, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Actually, that seems to be the right place for it to link to. If you look at Shada, Rose, Dalek, etc., the discon pages don't have the (TV story) bit. Which makes sense--they're not ambiguous within a "television discontinuity" space. And the template that goes on those pages seems to automagically add the (TV story) bit in for its back-link to the article. And if you look at the list page for discontinuities, someone had to go through a lot of trickery to fool it into accepting the (TV story) bit.
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| :So, I moved the page and edited the list. It should all work fine now. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 08:14, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| :So thats what the problem was. thanks --[[User:Lord Aro|Lord Aro]] 08:29, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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