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Ok.. So i have had my theories about the next 2 episode but there's one thing that i wanted to point out.
Ok.. So i have had my theories about the next 2 episode but there's one thing that i wanted to point out.
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Is all that we see or seem
Is all that we see or seem


But a dream within a dream?  
But a dream within a dream?


Edgar Allan Poe
Edgar Allan Poe


[[User:Jack Chilli|Jack Chilli]] 10:00, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Jack Chilli|Jack Chilli]] 10:00, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Further to the fairytale motif (I don't think its as substantial as a story arc) there are possibly nods towards fairy tales throughout the series. Red Riding Hood has been discussed elsewhere but what about Amelia giving the doctor an apple (Snow White), the doctor talking to the cat (Dick Whittington) and possibly even Beauty and the Beast (TBB and the end of VotD with Bracewell being restored to humanity).Any others?[[Special:Contributions/81.141.84.225|81.141.84.225]] 12:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Ruby red shoes for River in the Byzantium. [[User:Jack Chilli|Jack Chilli]] 13:04, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Amy's house is a cottage?
The ugly ducking grows up into a beautiful swan?
All together now "Rory! Rory! Tell us a story. Rory! Rory Tell it like it is" (Just me then? I'll fetch my coat) [[User:Jack Chilli|Jack Chilli]] 13:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Im liking this. I added it to give what i thought but now its adapting.. we could be on to something. [[User:TheDoctorGemma|TheDoctorGemma]] 13:17, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Rumpelstiltskin (name derived from 'a goblin') grew so angry that somebody knew his secret name that he stamped his foot so far into the grouns that he created a great chasim an fell into it never to be seen again. (Although as any fool knows that is not how the tale really ends ...) [[User:Jack Chilli|Jack Chilli]] 13:24, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Swallowed by a space whale ...
These are all great (though I wouldn't call sweet little Amelia an ugly duckling!) When Amy was swallowed by the earth I did think of a (perhaps) little known story called the girl who trod on a loaf - she ended up in a toad's kitchen (not a reptile, but close.) And of course, the one referenced by Moffat himself - Wendy (Amy being shown how to fly in her night clothes.)[[Special:Contributions/81.141.84.225|81.141.84.225]] 15:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

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Ok.. So i have had my theories about the next 2 episode but there's one thing that i wanted to point out.

In TEH when the Doctor meets Amelia, he asks her name and she says 'Amelia Pond' then he replies "Amelia Pond! Like a name out of a fairytale" but also in FaS The Doctor and River are having a conversation and River says "when the Pandorica opens". The Doctors reply was "The Pandorica. Ha! That's just a fairytale".. So maybe this whole thing is a fairytale or maybe a fairytale consuming Amy?


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Take this kiss upon the brow!

And, in parting from you now,

Thus much let me avow-

You are not wrong, who deem

That my days have been a dream;

Yet if hope has flown away

In a night, or in a day,

In a vision, or in none,

Is it therefore the less gone?

All that we see or seem

Is but a dream within a dream


I stand amid the roar

Of a surf-tormented shore,

And I hold within my hand

Grains of the golden sand-

How few! yet how they creep

Through my fingers to the deep,

While I weep- while I weep!

O God! can I not grasp

Them with a tighter clasp?

O God! can I not save

One from the pitiless wave?

Is all that we see or seem

But a dream within a dream?

Edgar Allan Poe

Jack Chilli 10:00, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Further to the fairytale motif (I don't think its as substantial as a story arc) there are possibly nods towards fairy tales throughout the series. Red Riding Hood has been discussed elsewhere but what about Amelia giving the doctor an apple (Snow White), the doctor talking to the cat (Dick Whittington) and possibly even Beauty and the Beast (TBB and the end of VotD with Bracewell being restored to humanity).Any others?81.141.84.225 12:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby red shoes for River in the Byzantium. Jack Chilli 13:04, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Amy's house is a cottage?

The ugly ducking grows up into a beautiful swan?

All together now "Rory! Rory! Tell us a story. Rory! Rory Tell it like it is" (Just me then? I'll fetch my coat) Jack Chilli 13:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


Im liking this. I added it to give what i thought but now its adapting.. we could be on to something. TheDoctorGemma 13:17, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rumpelstiltskin (name derived from 'a goblin') grew so angry that somebody knew his secret name that he stamped his foot so far into the grouns that he created a great chasim an fell into it never to be seen again. (Although as any fool knows that is not how the tale really ends ...) Jack Chilli 13:24, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


Swallowed by a space whale ...


These are all great (though I wouldn't call sweet little Amelia an ugly duckling!) When Amy was swallowed by the earth I did think of a (perhaps) little known story called the girl who trod on a loaf - she ended up in a toad's kitchen (not a reptile, but close.) And of course, the one referenced by Moffat himself - Wendy (Amy being shown how to fly in her night clothes.)81.141.84.225 15:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)