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The Doctor mentioned that Amy was living in a big empty house. Could her family have been erased by the cracks? Amy mentioned that she "never had a mom or dad, only an aunt". We have never seen her aunt. Can her aunt be some alien pretending to be her aunt? I always thought there was something weird about that big house and just Amy and her aunt (that we've never seen) living there. And that shadow running the the window when Amelia is outside waiting for the TARDIS to return could be someone else other than the Doctor or Prisoner Zero as most people have thought so far. It could even be her aunt... So what does everyone else think? [[User:V00D00M0NKY|V00D00M0NKY]] 05:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
The Doctor mentioned that Amy was living in a big empty house. Could her family have been erased by the cracks? Amy mentioned that she "never had a mom or dad, only an aunt". We have never seen her aunt. Can her aunt be some alien pretending to be her aunt? I always thought there was something weird about that big house and just Amy and her aunt (that we've never seen) living there. And that shadow running the the window when Amelia is outside waiting for the TARDIS to return could be someone else other than the Doctor or Prisoner Zero as most people have thought so far. It could even be her aunt... So what does everyone else think? [[User:V00D00M0NKY|V00D00M0NKY]] 05:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
Might the "big empty house" comment refer to the fact that the house has two storeys (when looking outside) but three floors? When Doctor and Amelia are upstairs outside Amelia's room, there is another set of stairs leading upwards... [[Special:Contributions/155.245.50.240|155.245.50.240]] 11:07, June 21, 2010 (UTC)JonB
I noticed the extra staircase in "The Pandorica Opens" as well - when River Song goes into Amy's house and upstairs. Her machine starts making a noise in a higher pitch as she passes the 'extra' staircase, then she goes into Amy's room and the pitch descends again. It seemed to detect something special about the stairs. [[Special:Contributions/155.245.50.240|155.245.50.240]] 07:56, June 23, 2010 (UTC) JonB
Good grief, you're right. I just checked for the extra staircase. That's ''brilliant''!!! [[User:Bluebox444|Bluebox444]] 12:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
Aren't her aunt and mum scheduled to be in The Big Bang anyway? With little Amy? I have a feeling, as Amy has just died, that she'll be in some kind of coma thing, similar to Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead. Instead of returning straight to the action, we see a kind of dream sequence from Amy's perspective, at home in her big empty house, with her Mum/Auntie, at the start of the next episode. Just an idea, knowing my luck, it's completely wrong but hey-ho...does the big empty house have anything to do with "remember what I told you when you when you were 7", which for the life of me, I still haven't figured out...[[Special:Contributions/87.112.243.115|87.112.243.115]] 08:38, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
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He could just be talking about "Do everything I tell you, and don't ask stupid questions.", from about 5mins 40seconds into The Eleventh Hour. But, more importantly, when she asks what he told her, he says "No, that's not important.". Suggesting that he's more concerned with her remembering him, and possibly how long she's known him, rather than the specifics of what he said. [[Special:Contributions/115.69.5.221|115.69.5.221]] 13:53, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
"A forest, in a bottle, on a spaceship in a maze. Have I impressed you yet Amy pond?"
They wouldn't have mentioned the house if it wasn't important, and Amy's imagination does seem to figure big in this series, and I aggree that her subcontiousness will reveal all.
In TEH, Amelia gives the doctor an apple and tells him her mum puts faces on them..but just before doing this,didn't she say she doesnt have a mum?
: She knew her parents but they died (disappeared?) before meeting the Doctor. So her mum USED to put the faces on apples. - ''<span style ="color:midnightblue">I. Am. [[User: Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]]</span>''<span style ="color:midnightblue">-<sup>([[User talk:Excalibur-117|talk]] • [[Special: Contributions/ Excalibur-117|contribs]])</sup></span> 07:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
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: I was wondering about that too. The apple she gave the Doctor looked fresh. The 'face' hadn't browned at all. [[Special:Contributions/115.69.5.221|115.69.5.221]] 07:47, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
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: Wasn't that just an apple Amy made to show the Doctor? He did ask for one. He then uses it to prove that he was a time traveller by showing it again twelve years (or five minutes) later where it was unaltered. Doesn't mean that her parents were real though.
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:In the very first shot of the Big Empty House (BEH) the swing is swinging but the wind isn't blowing. As if somebody just got off it before we arrived. Amy was gettig ready for bed so it wasn't her. Prisoner zero doesn't seem to be the type. So was the swinging swing intentional? Jack Chilli.
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:The wind can be seen blowing a pinwheel at the beginning of the ep as well. I don't think the swing is significant.
:What I think is weird is just the fact that Amy was completely alone in the house. Both at the time when the Doctor first met her and the time when they faced Prisoner Zero. It's just weird. The mysterious "Aunt Sharon" didn't even show up in "Amy's Choice". It just doesn't make sense. Plus, "The Pandorica Opens" may explain where the cracks came from, but it doesn't explain why that one particular crack kept following the Doctor and Amy around. There were others, presumably, the ones that the Saturnyne went through, and so forth - ''what's with that one crack?? [[User:Bluebox444|Bluebox444]] 12:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)''
'Why aren't there any ducks', think about that.--[[User:Bhillybillybob|Bhillybillybob]] 12:38, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
No ducks no qwacks in the universe?
The wind didn't blow any of the grass or trees at all. The windmill did revolve but nothing else was moving. The second time the Tardis arrives the swing is swinging again without anything on it. It;s like there was an invisible sprite.
The staircase is _prominent_ during the Doctors I'm missing something moment. It could just be an attic room but .... Anybody got a clear outside view of the cottage in daylight. Jack.
Found one at 26.48 of the episode. Very small roofspace (shockingly so actually), no room for an attic. Perception filter on top of perception filter. It's not just the Doctor that's losing his edge. Jack Chilli.
Also at 13:00 (the I'm missing something bit) you see the stairwell and there's a bright glow at the top. But at 18:26, when Amy has the Doctor locked up, you see all the way up - there's a flat ceiling or possibly a hatch at the top. Maybe it's the opposite of The Lodger - not an extra floor, but a missing one? One removed from time? [[User:Lee Horrocks|Lee Horrocks]] 00:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
What's the picture showing? A house on fire?
[[file:House_on_fire.png]]
The whole height of the house is also pretty visible quite early on in TEH. Either there's something special up there, or they just decided a big staircase would be a cool way to lead to a 1-foot-high 'attic'. And that picture looks very much like a house on fire. [[Special:Contributions/24.156.159.198|24.156.159.198]] 13:17, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
And an Angel? (Jack).
I don't think there perception filters hiding a tardis or anything like that, her house is just strange. Like it's been designed from a childs imagination or a weird dolls house. All those rooms close together and a staircase that leads to nowhere. I always thought the scene from TEH when the Doctor and Amelia are standing in front of a crack with the big eye watching them looks like they are in a tiny box with somebody looking in.
I just finish watching The Pandorical Opens for the third time and I notice something. They never mention how all the different villains got together from different places in time. If you listen the Dalek says that it is confirmed the Doctor cause the cracks in time. Who is it confirmed by. I think that someone is behind the pandorical box plan. If you go back to TEH the Doctor mentions the fact that you need a long time in order to have a proper empathetic link to a subject. The person living in the house the mystery person has had enough time to build this link. That person would have been able to tell the others how to build the box and would have been able to bring the Tartis back. I have a weird feeling that the big bad is the doctor himself (the bad doctor or better know as the dream lord) that has somehow found a corpual form.
:The only reason I think that it's not the Dream Lord is because he is most likely a primitive form of the Valeyard who won't manifest yet. I understand that the Doctor has met him before but for some reason I really don't think that it will be the Valeyard. If one single being is behind the entire thing then it has to be someone who could benefit from the entire universe being erased. This could possibly be Omega, Rassilon, Black Guardian, etc. None of which I thought of myself but at least Omega and the Black Guardian I can easily believe. [[User:V00D00M0NKY|V00D00M0NKY]] 06:23, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

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The Doctor mentioned that Amy was living in a big empty house. Could her family have been erased by the cracks? Amy mentioned that she "never had a mom or dad, only an aunt". We have never seen her aunt. Can her aunt be some alien pretending to be her aunt? I always thought there was something weird about that big house and just Amy and her aunt (that we've never seen) living there. And that shadow running the the window when Amelia is outside waiting for the TARDIS to return could be someone else other than the Doctor or Prisoner Zero as most people have thought so far. It could even be her aunt... So what does everyone else think? V00D00M0NKY 05:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


Might the "big empty house" comment refer to the fact that the house has two storeys (when looking outside) but three floors? When Doctor and Amelia are upstairs outside Amelia's room, there is another set of stairs leading upwards... 155.245.50.240 11:07, June 21, 2010 (UTC)JonB

I noticed the extra staircase in "The Pandorica Opens" as well - when River Song goes into Amy's house and upstairs. Her machine starts making a noise in a higher pitch as she passes the 'extra' staircase, then she goes into Amy's room and the pitch descends again. It seemed to detect something special about the stairs. 155.245.50.240 07:56, June 23, 2010 (UTC) JonB


Good grief, you're right. I just checked for the extra staircase. That's brilliant!!! Bluebox444 12:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


Aren't her aunt and mum scheduled to be in The Big Bang anyway? With little Amy? I have a feeling, as Amy has just died, that she'll be in some kind of coma thing, similar to Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead. Instead of returning straight to the action, we see a kind of dream sequence from Amy's perspective, at home in her big empty house, with her Mum/Auntie, at the start of the next episode. Just an idea, knowing my luck, it's completely wrong but hey-ho...does the big empty house have anything to do with "remember what I told you when you when you were 7", which for the life of me, I still haven't figured out...87.112.243.115 08:38, June 20, 2010 (UTC)


He could just be talking about "Do everything I tell you, and don't ask stupid questions.", from about 5mins 40seconds into The Eleventh Hour. But, more importantly, when she asks what he told her, he says "No, that's not important.". Suggesting that he's more concerned with her remembering him, and possibly how long she's known him, rather than the specifics of what he said. 115.69.5.221 13:53, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

"A forest, in a bottle, on a spaceship in a maze. Have I impressed you yet Amy pond?"


They wouldn't have mentioned the house if it wasn't important, and Amy's imagination does seem to figure big in this series, and I aggree that her subcontiousness will reveal all.


In TEH, Amelia gives the doctor an apple and tells him her mum puts faces on them..but just before doing this,didn't she say she doesnt have a mum?

She knew her parents but they died (disappeared?) before meeting the Doctor. So her mum USED to put the faces on apples. - I. Am. Excalibur-117-(talkcontribs) 07:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering about that too. The apple she gave the Doctor looked fresh. The 'face' hadn't browned at all. 115.69.5.221 07:47, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't that just an apple Amy made to show the Doctor? He did ask for one. He then uses it to prove that he was a time traveller by showing it again twelve years (or five minutes) later where it was unaltered. Doesn't mean that her parents were real though.
In the very first shot of the Big Empty House (BEH) the swing is swinging but the wind isn't blowing. As if somebody just got off it before we arrived. Amy was gettig ready for bed so it wasn't her. Prisoner zero doesn't seem to be the type. So was the swinging swing intentional? Jack Chilli.
The wind can be seen blowing a pinwheel at the beginning of the ep as well. I don't think the swing is significant.
What I think is weird is just the fact that Amy was completely alone in the house. Both at the time when the Doctor first met her and the time when they faced Prisoner Zero. It's just weird. The mysterious "Aunt Sharon" didn't even show up in "Amy's Choice". It just doesn't make sense. Plus, "The Pandorica Opens" may explain where the cracks came from, but it doesn't explain why that one particular crack kept following the Doctor and Amy around. There were others, presumably, the ones that the Saturnyne went through, and so forth - what's with that one crack?? Bluebox444 12:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

'Why aren't there any ducks', think about that.--Bhillybillybob 12:38, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

No ducks no qwacks in the universe?

The wind didn't blow any of the grass or trees at all. The windmill did revolve but nothing else was moving. The second time the Tardis arrives the swing is swinging again without anything on it. It;s like there was an invisible sprite.

The staircase is _prominent_ during the Doctors I'm missing something moment. It could just be an attic room but .... Anybody got a clear outside view of the cottage in daylight. Jack.

Found one at 26.48 of the episode. Very small roofspace (shockingly so actually), no room for an attic. Perception filter on top of perception filter. It's not just the Doctor that's losing his edge. Jack Chilli.

Also at 13:00 (the I'm missing something bit) you see the stairwell and there's a bright glow at the top. But at 18:26, when Amy has the Doctor locked up, you see all the way up - there's a flat ceiling or possibly a hatch at the top. Maybe it's the opposite of The Lodger - not an extra floor, but a missing one? One removed from time? Lee Horrocks 00:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)



What's the picture showing? A house on fire?

House on fire.png


The whole height of the house is also pretty visible quite early on in TEH. Either there's something special up there, or they just decided a big staircase would be a cool way to lead to a 1-foot-high 'attic'. And that picture looks very much like a house on fire. 24.156.159.198 13:17, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

And an Angel? (Jack).


I don't think there perception filters hiding a tardis or anything like that, her house is just strange. Like it's been designed from a childs imagination or a weird dolls house. All those rooms close together and a staircase that leads to nowhere. I always thought the scene from TEH when the Doctor and Amelia are standing in front of a crack with the big eye watching them looks like they are in a tiny box with somebody looking in.


I just finish watching The Pandorical Opens for the third time and I notice something. They never mention how all the different villains got together from different places in time. If you listen the Dalek says that it is confirmed the Doctor cause the cracks in time. Who is it confirmed by. I think that someone is behind the pandorical box plan. If you go back to TEH the Doctor mentions the fact that you need a long time in order to have a proper empathetic link to a subject. The person living in the house the mystery person has had enough time to build this link. That person would have been able to tell the others how to build the box and would have been able to bring the Tartis back. I have a weird feeling that the big bad is the doctor himself (the bad doctor or better know as the dream lord) that has somehow found a corpual form.

The only reason I think that it's not the Dream Lord is because he is most likely a primitive form of the Valeyard who won't manifest yet. I understand that the Doctor has met him before but for some reason I really don't think that it will be the Valeyard. If one single being is behind the entire thing then it has to be someone who could benefit from the entire universe being erased. This could possibly be Omega, Rassilon, Black Guardian, etc. None of which I thought of myself but at least Omega and the Black Guardian I can easily believe. V00D00M0NKY 06:23, June 23, 2010 (UTC)