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Does anyone have any idea what could be so bad, it gets locked away in a prison puzzle box in a Chamber benath Stonehenge, and will bring silence to the universe if released? [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 22:43, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have any idea what could be so bad, it gets locked away in a prison puzzle box in a Chamber benath Stonehenge, and will bring silence to the universe if released? [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 22:43, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


:Two thoughts: something analogous to [[The Beast]] or [[Abaddon]]. Or a [[Guardians of Time|Guardian]]. [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 23:17, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
:Two thoughts: something analogous to [[The Beast (The Impossible Planet)|The Beast]] or [[Abaddon]]. Or a [[Guardians of Time|Guardian]]. [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 23:17, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


::I think most likely it'll be something totally new that we've never heard of before.
::I think most likely it'll be something totally new that we've never heard of before.
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::*Neverpeople. (There's no article for them, but see [[Anti-Time]].) They planned to destroy Gallifrey with a small amount of anti-time, and I believe it was mentioned that directly connecting the two dimensions would wipe out all history and leave the cosmos empty and timeless. Maybe some particularly evil warrior/trickster was Oubliette'd out of history and became a particularly evil Neverperson. The biggest problem here is that it would make a terribly dull TV episode.
::*Neverpeople. (There's no article for them, but see [[Anti-Time]].) They planned to destroy Gallifrey with a small amount of anti-time, and I believe it was mentioned that directly connecting the two dimensions would wipe out all history and leave the cosmos empty and timeless. Maybe some particularly evil warrior/trickster was Oubliette'd out of history and became a particularly evil Neverperson. The biggest problem here is that it would make a terribly dull TV episode.


::*[[Omega]]. Lots of fans already believe it's him because of that "someone I know saw some video on YouTube where some crew member saw some guy who he thought looked like Omega" thing. RTD already argued that [[Omega]] could have survived both [[DW]]: ''[[Arc of Infinity]]'' and the LGTW. He has talked about destroying all of reality in the past. (By he, I meant Omega, not RTD--but then RTD tried to destroy all of reality too, via [[Davros]].) The biggest problem here is that we all still remember the Reality Bomb from 2 years ago, and this is just too similar. Yawn.
::*[[Omega]]. Lots of fans already believe it's him because of that "someone I know saw some video on YouTube where some crew member saw some guy who he thought looked like Omega" thing. RTD already argued that [[Omega]] could have survived both [[TV]]: ''[[Arc of Infinity]]'' and the LGTW. He has talked about destroying all of reality in the past. (By he, I meant Omega, not RTD--but then RTD tried to destroy all of reality too, via [[Davros]].) The biggest problem here is that we all still remember the Reality Bomb from 2 years ago, and this is just too similar. Yawn.





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There is supposed to be some certain things inside the Pandorica, according to reliable spoiler-ers, one of which includes:

Something very, very evil. From what is being told, possibly the most feared thing in the known universe, a menace or something. Something very bad, and it's a prisoner. There is a prisoner in the Pandorica that must not be released, or... silence will fall. It's that bad, apparantly. Silence might fall over time and space. From what I keep hearing about this certain prisoner in the Pandorica, it heavily fits the description of: "There was a trickster, or warrior..." That thing about the most feared thing in all the cosmos fits the thing said to be inprisoned in the Pandorica.

There seems to be a few thing in the Pandorica, but one thing that is the deadliest of them all. When the Pandorica opens, terrible forces will gather, and silence will fall. Seriously, it's that bad, apparantly. Whatever is in it sounds very bad. The Pandorica is said to be hidden inside an ancient chamber called the Pandorica Chamber, which is supposed to be benath Stonehenge.

Photos (most of which are not alloud to be shown publicly yet) show Cybermen, the new Daleks, Silurians, the Hoix, Sontarans, the Weevils, and all that stuff in the Pandorica Chamber. It seems that they're attracted to what is hidden, or could be trying to open the Pandorica themselves to release the things inside it. The many enemies themselves don't come the Pandorica.

I don't want to spil too much, and I'm still left in the dark about half of it. More pictures will be released in June, according to those who have seen them already. A few already have been shown (see The Pandorica Opens page on here), but many are still being kept.

Does anyone have any idea what could be so bad, it gets locked away in a prison puzzle box in a Chamber benath Stonehenge, and will bring silence to the universe if released? Delton Menace 22:43, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Two thoughts: something analogous to The Beast or Abaddon. Or a Guardian. Monkey with a Gun 23:17, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I think most likely it'll be something totally new that we've never heard of before.
But if you want something from past continuity that fits, here are some possibilities, progressively less plausible:
  • Skagra His plan was to put his mind into every other creature, unifying the cosmos into a single godlike entity, with no dissent or conflict, yada yada yada. Total silence, and pretty nasty. Although I'm not sure he really counts as a warrior, and he's a bit of a trickster but not necessarily a supreme one. But he's certainly "very, very evil". And he already broke into Shada (planet), a secret Time Lord prison that even the Doctor thought was a myth. And where is he? At the end of Shada (TV story) or Shada (webcast), the 4th or 8th Doctor and Romana decided to leave Skagra imprisoned in his own ship for the Time Lords to figure out how to deal with him. Given that he'd broken into Shada, taken it over, and let a bunch of prisoners out, it would make sense to put him in an higher-security prison, if they had one--like, say, the Pandorica. Or maybe they stupidly put him in Shada anyway, or even left him imprisoned in his ship, and he got free and is now trying to break into the Pandorica the same way he did Shada. The only problem is that either he needs a new plan that doesn't require Salyavin, or Lady President Romana has to have forgotten that she left Salyavin disguised as human Professor Chronotis (otherwise, how would he have survived the LGTW?). Of course Salyavin had the power to make people forget him....
  • The Black Guardian. The heat death of the universe is his eventual, and inevitable, victory. But maybe he wants to speed things up a bit. He'd certainly enjoy blowing up the Doctor's TARDIS. And he makes a great trickster. But not much of a warrior, since he's prevented from directly interacting with the universe without the other 5 Guardians.
  • The Beige Guardian, as represented in a video game inside the Time-Space Visualiser, put the Doctor "on a stupid quest to fight his past enemies". Maybe the real Guardian that the video game was based on is doing something similar in the finale. The biggest problem with him is that he probably doesn't exist.
  • Chronovores, or their collective leader the Host, or their half-Eternal leader Kronos. They like eating history (hence the name). In the past, they've been torn between eating the Doctor and letting him keep making alternate timelines for them to eat. But maybe they found some way to create an infinitude of alternate timelines at once to feast on, by blowing up the universe, or something like that. The biggest problem here is that it's hard to imagine the Time Lords capturing Kronos or any Chronovore and imprisoning him successfully.
  • Neverpeople. (There's no article for them, but see Anti-Time.) They planned to destroy Gallifrey with a small amount of anti-time, and I believe it was mentioned that directly connecting the two dimensions would wipe out all history and leave the cosmos empty and timeless. Maybe some particularly evil warrior/trickster was Oubliette'd out of history and became a particularly evil Neverperson. The biggest problem here is that it would make a terribly dull TV episode.
  • Omega. Lots of fans already believe it's him because of that "someone I know saw some video on YouTube where some crew member saw some guy who he thought looked like Omega" thing. RTD already argued that Omega could have survived both TV: Arc of Infinity and the LGTW. He has talked about destroying all of reality in the past. (By he, I meant Omega, not RTD--but then RTD tried to destroy all of reality too, via Davros.) The biggest problem here is that we all still remember the Reality Bomb from 2 years ago, and this is just too similar. Yawn.


  • In Doctor Who's first-ever crossover with Square Enix, the Qualia from the game Chaos Rings will show up, a giant cosmic force that swallows whole solar systems and dissolves realities. Rory and Amy, like the couples in that game, will defeat it by swinging swords at it. No problems here; seems perfectly plausible. :) --Falcotron 00:27, June 1, 2010 (UTC
  • I personally think that the pandorica holds the Doctor, as he has been described as "the destroyer of worlds" and quite a lot of people fear him ie Daleks

User:Finister2 - Maybe the Valeyard or Dream Lord] are the Pandorica prisioner, as both are evil manifists of the Doctor. Perhaps the Dream Lord will turn out to be the Valeyard should he ever be given a pyshical body.