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== No more Amy Williams-ing, please? ==


I removed "(later Amy Williams)" from the page. Her name is definately staying Amy Pond, thank god. You can check for yourselves - she's bailed on the credits as Amy Pond. Plus the Doctor constantly refers to she and Rory as "the Ponds" and "Mr and Mrs Pond", so if anything, he's taken her name. Sorry, but it sort of anoys me that there are people assume Amy will take Rory's name purely because she's a woman. I'm not calling you people sexist or anything; I'm just saying you need to keep a broader outlook on things. [[User:MidnightCat|MidnightCat]] 20:00, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
== The mother-in-law ==
Since the legality of the marriage between Eleven and River is very much in doubt, isn't it dubious to call her — especially in the lead — the Doctor's mother-'''in-law'''.  She may very well be no such damned thing.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:40: Tue 25 Sep 2012</span>
*It has been stated on the show twice, though. She says it herself in The Wedding of River Song, and the Doctor says he's married in the Asylum of the Daleks prequel... '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090>•</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF>·</font>]]''' 16:47, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
: River calls him "husband" in ''Angels Take Manhattan'' as well. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 19:07, October 5, 2012 (UTC)


There was no suggestion of this but you can hardly take the Doctor's word as gospel. Rory seemed pretty certain he was not Pond after his wedding. This happened before with people saying there was no proof that [[Gwen Cooper]] took [[Rhys Williams]]' name.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:03, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
On another "mother-in-law" front, I seriously think it's pushing it to say that she's Liz I's mother in law. 1) Amy was already married, voiding the marriage to Henry, and 2) we have no information about the legality of E marriage of Liz I and the Tenth Doctor. He could have faked it, she could have annulled it, she didn't appear to consider them married and he definitely does not. I think that line needs either to go or it needs to be significantly lessened in declarative strength.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:38, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
: Which is fair enough, but the names used in the closing credits are gospel. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.78.43|68.146.78.43]] 14:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


== Please remove "pregnant wife" reference in the lead paragraph ==
== The Henry VIII Story ==
Unless someone has seen a future episode, there is nothing to yet support that she is pregnant. The ending of Day of the Moon shows both positive and negative on the scan, so we do not know. Also, even if she is pregnant, this is not a permanent condition, so therefore should not be referenced in the introduction to the character. Someone with editing rights please remove it; the pregnancy can be discussed elsewhere in the article. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.78.43|68.146.78.43]] 14:52, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
In "A Town Called Mercy", Rory mentionned the Doctor leaving his phone charger in Henry VIII's suite. This event is depicted in the following story, "The Power of Three". in order to keep a chronological timeline, I moved the little synopsis of ATCM in the middle of the TPOT synopsis. Anyone who doesn't agree with this, feel free to undo changes. [[User:Chapeltok|Chapeltok]] [[User talk:Chapeltok|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:51, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
: There's not really enough in ''The Power of Three'' to say that the charger incident is definitively connected to when Amy marries Henry VIII. The Eleventh Doctor's visited 1938 like three times after all. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 23:15, October 4, 2012 (UTC)


== typo & misquoted/misheard ==
== Third Scots regular ==
The article is locked, so I can't do this myself .. the section "Meeting The Doctor" contains two errors (that I can see). For one there's a missing "to" (or other fix needed) in the sentence-snippet "..but first had keep the TARDIS' engines from phasing, requiring a quick trip into the future .." - I suggest "but first had to keep" - other fixes are possible though.


The second - and much more important error IMHO is that if I'm not mishearing myself Amy didn't "bite" her shrinks, but rather she did "fight" them .. an understandable mishearing, in either direction, but I think an important distinction.
I know I've read somewhere that the Brigadier is of Scottish ''descent'' (I think ''Terror of the Zygons'' may have been the source, though I haven't watched it), but is that enough to call him a Scot? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 19:06, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
:You're questioning the Scots credentials of a man with the name Stewart?  Brave man, you are.  Suffice it to say that both his first and last appearances firmly establish him as a "practising" Scot. From Zygons:
::SJS: I didn't expect to see you in a kilt.
::BRIG: My dear Miss Smith, my name is Lethbridge-Stewart.  The ''clan'' Stewart.
::SJS: Sorry, I thought you were doing a Doctor (referencing the Doc's faux Scots garb)
::BRIG: What an absurd idea. 
[[file:BrigRightProfileWOF.jpg|thumb|left|That's a pretty Scots cap]]
:Also, costuming in ''[[The Web of Fear]]'' gives him a cap with a clear Tartan pattern on it.  Dialogue doesn't say he's from a Scots regiment, but it doesn't really need to, in light of the cap.


[[User:Flowtron|Flowtron]] 19:58, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
:I'm sure there's also plenty of evidence from other media.  ''[[The Warkeeper's Crown (comic story)|The Warkeeper's Crown]]'', as I recall, stresses his lineage with emphasis on older members of his family that he would have personally met as a child.  So it's not ''distant'' Scots ancestry. I'm sure there are books which characterise him as a Scot, too, but I don't have those citations to hand.  I think he's actually meant to be born in Scotland, but ended up with an RP accent simply because of his military education down south.  Again, though, I don't have a citation readily to hand for that.


:Certainly "fighting" does make more sense. But I'm in love with the image of Amy biting four psychiatrists. It doesn't make as much sense, but boy is it funnier! :) —[[User:Robotech Master|Robotech Master]] 04:30, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
:But ''Web'' and ''Terror'' give us ample evidence to say that Amy is very definitely the third televised regular Scot. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:51: Tue 30 Oct 2012</span>


== Amy's powers? ==
::Oh yeah! There's also the ''fabulous'' way ''Terror of the Zygons'' ends.  Since you've not seen it yet, I'm loathe to spoil it for you.  But the last word of the script, applied to the Brig, is "Scotsman".  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:13: Tue 30 Oct 2012</span>


I wonder if Amy's power of imagination that brought the Doctor back from the crack is still active? It never was really adequately explained…nor was there ever any specific indication that it was "over" after she brought the Doctor back. Hmmmm. —[[User:Robotech Master|Robotech Master]] 04:30, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
== Year of Death ==
I don't think we have enough information to really determine the year of death for Amy or Rory. Doing so involved too many assumptions - exactly when they were sent back to, their exact ages at the time that happened, whether or not those ages were accurately recorded (or reported) once they got there, even the time of year they actually died in, etc. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] [[User talk:Spreee|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:51, October 13, 2012 (UTC)Spreee


== Gwen Cooper ==
== Craig ==
The Amy Pond page reference Craig Owens being in only one episode - he was in two. {{unsigned-anon|206.177.43.72}}


Is it worth noting the similarites to Gwen Cooper. I tried editing the page, but it was locked.
==Amy Pond Peg Doll==


Not only is there the police connection, but also the fact that both married into the Williams surname, but are still referred to by their maiden names. You could also add Gwen's affair, and Amy's attempted seduction of the Doctor, but don't wanna be too tenuous. . . But still, gotta feel sorry for the Williams men.
Just wondering if we could create an article on the Peg Doll version or maybe just add a photo
[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] 09:59, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


== "As a Ganger" section ==
I find Peg Doll Amy creepily brilliant {{unsigned|BigCatFan}}


Since [[Amy Pond (Ganger)]] has a notice that says it should be merged and then deleted, should we change the "As a Ganger" section to a summary of Amy's appearences in episodes 1-6 of series 6? But I think it should keep the first paragraph with the fact that she was kidnapped. [[User:Glimmer721|Glimmer721]] 20:49, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
== How gone IS Amy? ==


== first encounter? ==
In "The Bells Of Saint John" there is a book that Oswin see's a character of in real life. On the book it shows a group of people which can easily be wiped away under the bed as if it were no big deal, which it isn't, EXCEPT for one disturbing "thingy" on the books front cover. It's author. The author of the book is Amelia Willaims. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... How "gone" is she now?


for the caption of the picture of Amy Pond facing prisoner 0, it claims that this is her first encounter with an alien species, which is untrue because her first encounter was with the doctor. can somebody change this? [[User:Tessalecta|Tessalecta]] 23:26, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
: Please sign your posts. She's not even two stories gone, she's waving at her family through history. Still doesn't mean the Doctor can see her without ripping a hole in reality.--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:54, April 2, 2013 (UTC)


==Do not remove...==
== Clare Corbett? ==
Please do not remove the bit about amy and her parents after the doctor restarted the universe because it states: "Amy suceeded in restoring the family she had lost to the cracks, as well as a human again Rory." so her parents exist now because the doctor fixed it!!!
[[Clare Corbett]] is listed as the main voice actor for Amy, but her page says she only voiced two characters (neither of them Amy) and read multiple audio releases which did feature Amy, but it doesn't sound like she's voicing the specific character of Amy, just narrating stories that Amy is in. I don't think that makes her a voice actor for Amy, unless there's some missing information on Corbett's page. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:26, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
:I took it down for now. If she does actually voice Amy somewhere, then it can be re-added (and included on Corbett's page). [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:10, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure she ''does'' specifically voice Amy in ''[[The Hounds of Artemis]]'', which, you're right, is not even mentioned on her page. That one's less of a her-reading-for-everyone situation, and more of one closely resembling ''[[The Companion Chronicles]]'', wherein two actors play ''mainly'' two charactersm but also others here and there. Matt Smith plays the Doctor plus any male characters, and she plays Amy plus any female.<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="SmallerOnTheOutside">SOTO</span>]] ([[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Give me a shout">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="My contribs">✍</span>]]\[[Special:Contributions/SV7|<span title="What my bot's been up to" style="font-size:80%">'''♆'''</span>]]) 04:11, March 11, 2014 (UTC)


==Species listing in infobox==
== Henry VIII: "Spouse" ==
If we're going to list her species as Peg Doll, then we need to also include Ganger in that list as well, given that no separate article for the Ganger version of Amy exists. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 01:17, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
Why is Henry VIII listed as Amy's spouse? This is the dialogue for the scene:


Amy: Somebody was talking and I just said yes. <br>
Rory: To wedding vows! You just married Henry VIII on our anniversary.


They were there for Henry VIII's wedding to someone else and Amy, absently overhearing someone talking, just said the word "yes." That does not constitute a ceremony or legal agreement, especially when the words weren't even directed at her, she's never referred to as Henry VIII's wife unless Rory's line is stretched to be taken as something other than a verbal jab to the ribs, and there's no evidence Amy or Henry VIII consider Amy's "yes" to be legally/religiously/culturally/ceremonially/morally binding. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


Pardon me while I bang my head against a wall.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:24, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
:I haven't seen the episode but I have to agree. Moffat and company are fond of writing cutsie little things that some people take a bit too seriously. I know [[T:NO RW]] applies, but how can Amy be married to someone (Henry) when she's already legally married to Rory? At any rate, going by infobox standards, it's a minor blip in one episode that doesn't really rate being in the infobox. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:32, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


== the Doctor said ==
== Death in Heaven ==
Given that we have absolutely no narrative evidence to state that Amy was one of the Cyber-converted individuals in ''Death in Heaven'', why was this mentioned as fact on the page? I've reverted it for now, but I'll need to check and make sure this doesn't pop up later. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ~ [[Message Wall:Bwburke94|Creator of All Things Brilliant!]] ~  05:48, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


The Doctor called her Amy Williams in the god Complex. He's finally admitted it. [[Special:Contributions/78.105.95.95|78.105.95.95]] 20:38, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
:Well seeing that Amy was buried on Earth, and that all humans up 'till the events of Death in Heaven have been converted into Cybermen (as said in the episode), I think it is safe to assume that she must have been among the Cybermen. It isn't really important, but I don't think it's incorrect to say so. --[[User:Wickle Fwickle|Wickle Fwickle]] [[User talk:Wickle Fwickle|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:50, November 16, 2014 (UTC)


==Marital status on page==
A more general look at this question can be found at [[Thread:165490]], if you want to take a look.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 10:01, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
The page states:
:''She was the girlfriend (and later wife) of Rory Williams''
Seeing as everything is spoken of in the past tense, doesn't it make more sense to say that she was the wife of Rory Williams? She ''is'' his wife. The girlfriend part isn't so relevant anymore. {{User:D0ct0r11/sig}} 16:41: Fri 9 Sep 2011


== The name "River Song" ==


Is this correct? '''Amy bestowed her maiden name, Pond on her daughter, opining that "Melody Williams" sounded like a geography teacher, whereas "Melody Pond" was the name for a superhero. In the end, she would be essentially both, albeit under a modified name''' This refers to the use of "River Song" which, as far as I can figure, is still "Melody Pond" but corrupted by translation to and back from the language of the Gamma Forests as mentioned in the next few sentences of this entry. {{Unsigned|Granville4879}}


One of the issues in writing these things is that we wish to write them so they apply through or perhaps the word is across all the appearences. As he marital status changed throughout her appearences, that should be noted and the person reader this wiki for information will be alerted to those changes, in a manner that would not be available without the plural statuses noted. If Rory gets killed, we should then note her status as his widow. It is only those characters who remain constant in their statuses throughout their appearences which may not be worth noting.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:16, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
== Ganger Amy ==
Should we add a new page about Amy's Ganger? There are still more pages about others', so why not Amy's? [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] [[User talk:Scheepybird|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:13, December 22, 2014 (UTC)


==Model for a perfume: before or after departure?==
In ''Closing Time'', the Doctor ran into Amy and Rory and sees that Amy is a model for a brand of perfume called Petrichor. It seems that scene takes place som time after Amy and Rory's departure from the Tardis.


But earlier, we can clearly see on a [http://www.ranger-retrocenter.com/misc/thedate1.png newspaper] that the date is 19th April 2011, so two days before America and Lake Silencio. So the Amy we see in the mall in ''Closing Time'' has not yet seen the Doctor die. Therefore, I think that statement has to be moved between her honymoon and America.
== The Tip ==


But the statement only makes sense if it's set after The God Complex given the slogan of the perfume and what was said to Amy during the The God Complex. The whole Petrichor thing is from The Doctor's Wife too, making it further implied so (if I remember correctly, what petrichor means actually needs to be explained to Amy and Rory by Idris/the TARDIS). As I can't find any evidence that it's a real paper, I imagine someone screwed up and just left the actual date on the newspaper when it was made, thinking nobody would notice (although, apparently Closing Time's filming block was in March 2011 so maybe it was just a random date). I think we have another Rory's nametag controversy on our hands.
During the whole Missy and Cybermen debacle, when Kate and her soldiers showed up, they said they knew to come because a Scottish girl called in a tip.  as far as I'm aware, Amy is the only important Scottish female character in the series. This is purely speculation since we don't actually see or hear her, but is it possible she was part of the 91 original Cybermen stored in England? I mean, I wouldn't put it past the Master to dig up the Doctor's dead companions and use them as phase one of the plan.  I only propose this because how else could Amy have been there and called it in since she was trapped by the Weeping Angels without some later to be explained Ex Machina plot?  [[User:Shadowfox337|Shadowfox337]] [[User talk:Shadowfox337|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:11, September 10, 2015 (UTC)
:There is no way to tell who the Scottish woman was. It could have been Missy herself who called up and told them to come. We can't put it on her page without in-universe proof it was Amy who made the call. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:37, September 22, 2015 (UTC)


== Alternative Timeline image ==
==Subheadings==
Are the sub-headings under Alternative Timelines supposed to be out of universe?--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 15:43, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
:They are all alternate timelines that Amy experienced within the DWU. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:33, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
...yes, but are the headings supposed to be out of universe?--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 17:43, September 22, 2015 (UTC)
::Oh! I understand what you mean now. The first two work both in-universe and out-of-universe and I think they unintentionally set a tone for the others. I agree they should he altered to reflect the in-universe side. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:02, September 22, 2015 (UTC)


The image in the alternative timeline section is of Amy in the garden waiting for River...that does not take place in the alternative timeline. Wouldn't a better picture be of her with the eyepatch, maybe behind a desk? [[User:Glimmer721|Glimmer721]] <sup>[[User talk:Glimmer721|talk to me]]</sup> 22:52, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd probably change them all. I don't know what to though.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 16:56, September 24, 2015 (UTC)


That would be good. I like her sexypose when she saying "Pond, Amelia Pond" like James Bond. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 23:00, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
== Proposed image change. ==
 
[[File:Amy_Geronimo.jpg|thumb|Currant image]]
 
[[File:AmyLooksLeftAfterVoting.jpg|thumb|Proposal #1]]
 
 
The currant image and the proposal are very similar except the proposed is brighter and facing the article, which is desired according to wiki policy, whereas the currant does not. Amy's hair also isn't as distracting due to being in mid air so to speak. [[User:Snivystorm|Snivystorm]] [[User talk:Snivystorm|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:27, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 
== Clones or children? ==
 
Gonna put an end to this problem right now. Because this (are these supposed embryos children of Amy) is an area that needs explanation and/or could be disputed, it does not belong in the infobox. Put it in the body of the article if you must, but leave it out of the infoboxes. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:05, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
 
:I think it’s made pretty clear in the story. River directly refers to the “clones” as her siblings throughout and she mentions that they were created through embryo cloning, meaning that they are genetically identical or at least very to River but also Amy and Rory’s biological children, born through Host/Surrogate mothers. It’s not like they directly cloned River, they cloned an embryo that eventually became River and made more children from it. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]]
 
::This is a big ethical discussion that many editors will dispute - it is best just to leave out. Perhaps the same should be done on River's page as well? [[User:Snivystorm|Snivystorm]] [[User talk:Snivystorm|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:39, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
:::Yes. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:32, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
 
::There are two quotes from ''[[The Lady in the Lake (audio story)|The Lady in the Lake]]'' that are pertinent: "He was my...brother. I suppose." and "Or to be precise, he's like me. Madame Kovarian was a mad scientist and like any self respecting mad scientist she didn't miss the opportunity of an embryonic Time Lord in her lab. She took my DNA and grew seven others like me!" So I take from that ''brother'' and ''sister'' are more of symbolic titles/the easiest explanation as the individuals weren't derived from Amy's eggs in a 52nd century IVF situation, but from DNA stolen from River herself during gestation. In the two separate clone groups (the original seven: Tarn, Wadi, Rindle, Lake, Stream, and Creek) and the later group created after the destruction of Demons Run (Brooke, H-One, H-Two, O) they each grew up together and therefore referred to the others in their specific groups as sisters and/or brothers. The second group also grew up calling Kovarian their mother and in a power trippy, [[Wormwood (Invasion of the Bane)|Mrs Wormwood]] or [[Myers (Sky)|Miss Myers]] style (who artificially created [[Luke Smith]] and [[Sky Smith]]), Kovarian also says they are her children (and tries to insist to River that because she raised her, she is more worthy of the title of her mother than Amy). By the end of ''[[The Furies (audio story)|The Furies]]'' the second group turns on Kovarian for her cruelty and River has a couple of lines where she talks about how the Brooke/H-Two/O have certain traits that were passed down from Amy and Rory. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:50, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
 
==Second Child Actress?==
Do we know who played Amelia in her brief appearance at the end of [[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]? I’m 99% it wasn’t Caitlyn, based on the brief glimpse we got of her face. [[User:TheFatPanda|TheFatPanda]] [[User talk:TheFatPanda|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:10, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Who Else Thinks Amy Should've Been a Companion of Either the 10th or 12th Doctor? ==
 
I think she should have been because all 3 of them were played by Scottish actors, and having a Scottish Doctor and Scottish companion might've been interesting. [[User:Sliderhostmimic|Sliderhostmimic]] [[User talk:Sliderhostmimic|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
: This isn't what a talkpage is for. A talkpage is to discuss the article in a wiki context. Hope this helps. :) [[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 20:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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The mother-in-law[[edit source]]

Since the legality of the marriage between Eleven and River is very much in doubt, isn't it dubious to call her — especially in the lead — the Doctor's mother-in-law. She may very well be no such damned thing.
czechout<staff />    16:40: Tue 25 Sep 2012

  • It has been stated on the show twice, though. She says it herself in The Wedding of River Song, and the Doctor says he's married in the Asylum of the Daleks prequel... d · 16:47, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
River calls him "husband" in Angels Take Manhattan as well. -- Tybort (talk page) 19:07, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

On another "mother-in-law" front, I seriously think it's pushing it to say that she's Liz I's mother in law. 1) Amy was already married, voiding the marriage to Henry, and 2) we have no information about the legality of E marriage of Liz I and the Tenth Doctor. He could have faked it, she could have annulled it, she didn't appear to consider them married and he definitely does not. I think that line needs either to go or it needs to be significantly lessened in declarative strength.--ComicBookGoddess 10:38, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

The Henry VIII Story[[edit source]]

In "A Town Called Mercy", Rory mentionned the Doctor leaving his phone charger in Henry VIII's suite. This event is depicted in the following story, "The Power of Three". in order to keep a chronological timeline, I moved the little synopsis of ATCM in the middle of the TPOT synopsis. Anyone who doesn't agree with this, feel free to undo changes. Chapeltok 08:51, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

There's not really enough in The Power of Three to say that the charger incident is definitively connected to when Amy marries Henry VIII. The Eleventh Doctor's visited 1938 like three times after all. -- Tybort (talk page) 23:15, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Third Scots regular[[edit source]]

I know I've read somewhere that the Brigadier is of Scottish descent (I think Terror of the Zygons may have been the source, though I haven't watched it), but is that enough to call him a Scot? -- Tybort (talk page) 19:06, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

You're questioning the Scots credentials of a man with the name Stewart? Brave man, you are. Suffice it to say that both his first and last appearances firmly establish him as a "practising" Scot. From Zygons:
SJS: I didn't expect to see you in a kilt.
BRIG: My dear Miss Smith, my name is Lethbridge-Stewart. The clan Stewart.
SJS: Sorry, I thought you were doing a Doctor (referencing the Doc's faux Scots garb)
BRIG: What an absurd idea.
That's a pretty Scots cap
Also, costuming in The Web of Fear gives him a cap with a clear Tartan pattern on it. Dialogue doesn't say he's from a Scots regiment, but it doesn't really need to, in light of the cap.
I'm sure there's also plenty of evidence from other media. The Warkeeper's Crown, as I recall, stresses his lineage with emphasis on older members of his family that he would have personally met as a child. So it's not distant Scots ancestry. I'm sure there are books which characterise him as a Scot, too, but I don't have those citations to hand. I think he's actually meant to be born in Scotland, but ended up with an RP accent simply because of his military education down south. Again, though, I don't have a citation readily to hand for that.
But Web and Terror give us ample evidence to say that Amy is very definitely the third televised regular Scot.
czechout<staff />    03:51: Tue 30 Oct 2012
Oh yeah! There's also the fabulous way Terror of the Zygons ends. Since you've not seen it yet, I'm loathe to spoil it for you. But the last word of the script, applied to the Brig, is "Scotsman".
czechout<staff />    04:13: Tue 30 Oct 2012

Year of Death[[edit source]]

I don't think we have enough information to really determine the year of death for Amy or Rory. Doing so involved too many assumptions - exactly when they were sent back to, their exact ages at the time that happened, whether or not those ages were accurately recorded (or reported) once they got there, even the time of year they actually died in, etc. Spreee 19:51, October 13, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Craig[[edit source]]

The Amy Pond page reference Craig Owens being in only one episode - he was in two. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.177.43.72 (talk).

Amy Pond Peg Doll[[edit source]]

Just wondering if we could create an article on the Peg Doll version or maybe just add a photo

I find Peg Doll Amy creepily brilliant The preceding unsigned comment was added by BigCatFan (talk • contribs) .

How gone IS Amy?[[edit source]]

In "The Bells Of Saint John" there is a book that Oswin see's a character of in real life. On the book it shows a group of people which can easily be wiped away under the bed as if it were no big deal, which it isn't, EXCEPT for one disturbing "thingy" on the books front cover. It's author. The author of the book is Amelia Willaims. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... How "gone" is she now?

Please sign your posts. She's not even two stories gone, she's waving at her family through history. Still doesn't mean the Doctor can see her without ripping a hole in reality.--ComicBookGoddess 01:54, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Clare Corbett?[[edit source]]

Clare Corbett is listed as the main voice actor for Amy, but her page says she only voiced two characters (neither of them Amy) and read multiple audio releases which did feature Amy, but it doesn't sound like she's voicing the specific character of Amy, just narrating stories that Amy is in. I don't think that makes her a voice actor for Amy, unless there's some missing information on Corbett's page. Mewiet 10:26, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I took it down for now. If she does actually voice Amy somewhere, then it can be re-added (and included on Corbett's page). Shambala108 14:10, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure she does specifically voice Amy in The Hounds of Artemis, which, you're right, is not even mentioned on her page. That one's less of a her-reading-for-everyone situation, and more of one closely resembling The Companion Chronicles, wherein two actors play mainly two charactersm but also others here and there. Matt Smith plays the Doctor plus any male characters, and she plays Amy plus any female.
--SOTO (/\) 04:11, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Henry VIII: "Spouse"[[edit source]]

Why is Henry VIII listed as Amy's spouse? This is the dialogue for the scene:

Amy: Somebody was talking and I just said yes.
Rory: To wedding vows! You just married Henry VIII on our anniversary.

They were there for Henry VIII's wedding to someone else and Amy, absently overhearing someone talking, just said the word "yes." That does not constitute a ceremony or legal agreement, especially when the words weren't even directed at her, she's never referred to as Henry VIII's wife unless Rory's line is stretched to be taken as something other than a verbal jab to the ribs, and there's no evidence Amy or Henry VIII consider Amy's "yes" to be legally/religiously/culturally/ceremonially/morally binding. Mewiet 04:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen the episode but I have to agree. Moffat and company are fond of writing cutsie little things that some people take a bit too seriously. I know T:NO RW applies, but how can Amy be married to someone (Henry) when she's already legally married to Rory? At any rate, going by infobox standards, it's a minor blip in one episode that doesn't really rate being in the infobox. Shambala108 13:32, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Death in Heaven[[edit source]]

Given that we have absolutely no narrative evidence to state that Amy was one of the Cyber-converted individuals in Death in Heaven, why was this mentioned as fact on the page? I've reverted it for now, but I'll need to check and make sure this doesn't pop up later. Bwburke94 ~ Creator of All Things Brilliant! ~ 05:48, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Well seeing that Amy was buried on Earth, and that all humans up 'till the events of Death in Heaven have been converted into Cybermen (as said in the episode), I think it is safe to assume that she must have been among the Cybermen. It isn't really important, but I don't think it's incorrect to say so. --Wickle Fwickle 05:50, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

A more general look at this question can be found at Thread:165490, if you want to take a look.--Skittles the hog - talk 10:01, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

The name "River Song"[[edit source]]

Is this correct? Amy bestowed her maiden name, Pond on her daughter, opining that "Melody Williams" sounded like a geography teacher, whereas "Melody Pond" was the name for a superhero. In the end, she would be essentially both, albeit under a modified name This refers to the use of "River Song" which, as far as I can figure, is still "Melody Pond" but corrupted by translation to and back from the language of the Gamma Forests as mentioned in the next few sentences of this entry. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Granville4879 (talk • contribs) .

Ganger Amy[[edit source]]

Should we add a new page about Amy's Ganger? There are still more pages about others', so why not Amy's? Scheepybird 16:13, December 22, 2014 (UTC)


The Tip[[edit source]]

During the whole Missy and Cybermen debacle, when Kate and her soldiers showed up, they said they knew to come because a Scottish girl called in a tip. as far as I'm aware, Amy is the only important Scottish female character in the series. This is purely speculation since we don't actually see or hear her, but is it possible she was part of the 91 original Cybermen stored in England? I mean, I wouldn't put it past the Master to dig up the Doctor's dead companions and use them as phase one of the plan. I only propose this because how else could Amy have been there and called it in since she was trapped by the Weeping Angels without some later to be explained Ex Machina plot? Shadowfox337 11:11, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

There is no way to tell who the Scottish woman was. It could have been Missy herself who called up and told them to come. We can't put it on her page without in-universe proof it was Amy who made the call. Mewiet 16:37, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Subheadings[[edit source]]

Are the sub-headings under Alternative Timelines supposed to be out of universe?--Skittles the hog - talk 15:43, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

They are all alternate timelines that Amy experienced within the DWU. Mewiet 16:33, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

...yes, but are the headings supposed to be out of universe?--Skittles the hog - talk 17:43, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Oh! I understand what you mean now. The first two work both in-universe and out-of-universe and I think they unintentionally set a tone for the others. I agree they should he altered to reflect the in-universe side. Mewiet 18:02, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd probably change them all. I don't know what to though.--Skittles the hog - talk 16:56, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Proposed image change.[[edit source]]

Currant image
Proposal #1


The currant image and the proposal are very similar except the proposed is brighter and facing the article, which is desired according to wiki policy, whereas the currant does not. Amy's hair also isn't as distracting due to being in mid air so to speak. Snivystorm 16:27, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Clones or children?[[edit source]]

Gonna put an end to this problem right now. Because this (are these supposed embryos children of Amy) is an area that needs explanation and/or could be disputed, it does not belong in the infobox. Put it in the body of the article if you must, but leave it out of the infoboxes. Shambala108 21:05, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

I think it’s made pretty clear in the story. River directly refers to the “clones” as her siblings throughout and she mentions that they were created through embryo cloning, meaning that they are genetically identical or at least very to River but also Amy and Rory’s biological children, born through Host/Surrogate mothers. It’s not like they directly cloned River, they cloned an embryo that eventually became River and made more children from it. SarahJaneFan
This is a big ethical discussion that many editors will dispute - it is best just to leave out. Perhaps the same should be done on River's page as well? Snivystorm 21:39, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
Yes. Shambala108 02:32, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
There are two quotes from The Lady in the Lake that are pertinent: "He was my...brother. I suppose." and "Or to be precise, he's like me. Madame Kovarian was a mad scientist and like any self respecting mad scientist she didn't miss the opportunity of an embryonic Time Lord in her lab. She took my DNA and grew seven others like me!" So I take from that brother and sister are more of symbolic titles/the easiest explanation as the individuals weren't derived from Amy's eggs in a 52nd century IVF situation, but from DNA stolen from River herself during gestation. In the two separate clone groups (the original seven: Tarn, Wadi, Rindle, Lake, Stream, and Creek) and the later group created after the destruction of Demons Run (Brooke, H-One, H-Two, O) they each grew up together and therefore referred to the others in their specific groups as sisters and/or brothers. The second group also grew up calling Kovarian their mother and in a power trippy, Mrs Wormwood or Miss Myers style (who artificially created Luke Smith and Sky Smith), Kovarian also says they are her children (and tries to insist to River that because she raised her, she is more worthy of the title of her mother than Amy). By the end of The Furies the second group turns on Kovarian for her cruelty and River has a couple of lines where she talks about how the Brooke/H-Two/O have certain traits that were passed down from Amy and Rory. Mewiet 04:50, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

Second Child Actress?[[edit source]]

Do we know who played Amelia in her brief appearance at the end of The Time of the Doctor? I’m 99% it wasn’t Caitlyn, based on the brief glimpse we got of her face. TheFatPanda 23:10, September 20, 2018 (UTC)

Who Else Thinks Amy Should've Been a Companion of Either the 10th or 12th Doctor?[[edit source]]

I think she should have been because all 3 of them were played by Scottish actors, and having a Scottish Doctor and Scottish companion might've been interesting. Sliderhostmimic 20:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

This isn't what a talkpage is for. A talkpage is to discuss the article in a wiki context. Hope this helps. :) TheFartyDoctor Talk 20:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)