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:* they sometimes put in material from other TV and film of the era (''[[The Highlanders]]'', for instance, has imagery from other films about Scottish conflicts)
:* they sometimes put in material from other TV and film of the era (''[[The Highlanders]]'', for instance, has imagery from other films about Scottish conflicts)
:* what genuine telesnaps that are used are '''always''' of inferior quality to what can be found directly on the official BBC website.
:* what genuine telesnaps that are used are '''always''' of inferior quality to what can be found directly on the official BBC website.
:Anyone else have an opinion about using LC imagery? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">17:39: Fri&nbsp;11 Nov 2011&nbsp;</span>
:Anyone else have an opinion about using LC imagery? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}17:39: Fri&nbsp;11 Nov 2011&nbsp;</span>
 
::I believe the matter to be quite clear: Loose Cannon recons are unlicenced, and therefore are not a valid source per [[Tardis:Canon policy]]. &mdash; [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|&#916;]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|&#8711;]]''' - 10:08, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::My opinion's not changed in the 2 and a bit years since I wrote the original post.
:::Delete them. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:58, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
==Archivist's notes==
There being no significant opposition to this notion, it's deemed passed. Putting this policy in slightly different language, only [[John Cura]] [[telesnap]]s are therefore allowed to illustrate [[missing episode]]s (unless, obviously, the BBC issue an official reconstruction or animation). The exception to this must be "[[The Feast of Steven]]" of which only non-John Cura pictures survive.  These, though, aren't actually telesnaps but personal photos of the recording of the episode, made by one of the actors in it.
 
Logically, this ruling doesn't just forbid ''Loose Cannon'' recordings, but '''any''' fan reconstruction.  It's broadly an adjunct to our [[T:NO FANFIC]] policy, since reconstructions are usually fan efforts.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}16:11: Wed&nbsp;23 Nov 2011&nbsp;</span> 16:11, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

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Should Loose Cannon Reconstructions' images be used on article pages, a user has been adding several to various Hartnell era stories, all of them are currently uncategorised on the Special:UncategorizedImages (all the black and white ones are, I think Loose Cannon's).

While it might be good to have the pictures to illustrate some elements of the article, they're photo manipulations (or CGI recreations) of scenes. They're also (unlike The Invasion for example) not released by the BBC, so they're not official. I just think by allowing them we might be openning the door for any fan recreations of scenes to be uploaded as though they're real. --Tangerineduel 12:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I felt this needed to be resurrected because it didn't attract any answers from the community. It's kind of a "no-brainer" question, I think, but it'd still be good to get some kind of community confirmation. I don't think we can't allow LC reconstruction images because:
  • they sometimes put in material from other TV and film of the era (The Highlanders, for instance, has imagery from other films about Scottish conflicts)
  • what genuine telesnaps that are used are always of inferior quality to what can be found directly on the official BBC website.
Anyone else have an opinion about using LC imagery?
czechout<staff />   17:39: Fri 11 Nov 2011 
I believe the matter to be quite clear: Loose Cannon recons are unlicenced, and therefore are not a valid source per Tardis:Canon policy. — Rob T Firefly - Δ - 10:08, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
My opinion's not changed in the 2 and a bit years since I wrote the original post.
Delete them. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:58, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Archivist's notes[[edit source]]

There being no significant opposition to this notion, it's deemed passed. Putting this policy in slightly different language, only John Cura telesnaps are therefore allowed to illustrate missing episodes (unless, obviously, the BBC issue an official reconstruction or animation). The exception to this must be "The Feast of Steven" of which only non-John Cura pictures survive. These, though, aren't actually telesnaps but personal photos of the recording of the episode, made by one of the actors in it.

Logically, this ruling doesn't just forbid Loose Cannon recordings, but any fan reconstruction. It's broadly an adjunct to our T:NO FANFIC policy, since reconstructions are usually fan efforts.
czechout<staff />   16:11: Wed 23 Nov 2011  16:11, November 23, 2011 (UTC)