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rambling article had a lot speculation and relatively little to do with the [[Whoniverse]]. I put in some actual examples. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 21:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC) | rambling article had a lot speculation and relatively little to do with the [[Whoniverse]]. I put in some actual examples. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 21:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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The page should be left as 'temporal paradox' it's what has been used in multiple articles and in-universe sources. 'Most people' is kinda a subjective term. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC) | The page should be left as 'temporal paradox' it's what has been used in multiple articles and in-universe sources. 'Most people' is kinda a subjective term. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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==Jack Harkness== | ==Jack Harkness== | ||
Ok, so the article says Jack was in WWII as three different points of his life, but wasn't he there four times? using his personal time line, the first would be when he was a con artist trying to scam the Doctor and Rose, the second would be during the time he spent waiting to find the Doctor after newly becoming immortal (while working for Torchwood), then when he went back to the dance hall the night before the real Captain Jack Harkness died, and lastly when he was frozen? I've always wondered about that b/c where ever I look the count is always different that mine. --BJ 26 April 2009, 9:50PM Standard Eastern Time | Ok, so the article says Jack was in WWII as three different points of his life, but wasn't he there four times? using his personal time line, the first would be when he was a con artist trying to scam the Doctor and Rose, the second would be during the time he spent waiting to find the Doctor after newly becoming immortal (while working for Torchwood), then when he went back to the dance hall the night before the real Captain Jack Harkness died, and lastly when he was frozen? I've always wondered about that b/c where ever I look the count is always different that mine. --BJ 26 April 2009, 9:50PM Standard Eastern Time | ||
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:::I don't think this belongs here. I think that only paradoxes pointed out as such in the narrative really belong here. I mean,no plots of stories (so far) hinge on the presence of Jack during World War II.--[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 18:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC) | :::I don't think this belongs here. I think that only paradoxes pointed out as such in the narrative really belong here. I mean,no plots of stories (so far) hinge on the presence of Jack during World War II.--[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 18:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== The Big Bang == | == The Big Bang == | ||
What type of paradox would the Big Bang paradox come under? The Doctor only goes back in time because Rory showed him the screwdriver, alerting him to the fact he went back in time to give Rory the screwdriver in the first place? [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 23:19, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | What type of paradox would the Big Bang paradox come under? The Doctor only goes back in time because Rory showed him the screwdriver, alerting him to the fact he went back in time to give Rory the screwdriver in the first place? [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 23:19, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Predestination Paradox [[Special:Contributions/90.218.185.202|90.218.185.202]] 17:09, September 3, 2010 (UTC) | Predestination Paradox [[Special:Contributions/90.218.185.202|90.218.185.202]] 17:09, September 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Temporal Anomaly == | == Temporal Anomaly == | ||
Are Temporal Anomalies and Temporal Paradoxes similar in any way? [[Special:Contributions/94.6.214.11|94.6.214.11]]<sup>[[User talk:94.6.214.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:24, March 24, 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Rose and ontological or temporal paradox== | |||
From [[Bad wolf meme]]: | |||
:"[[Rose Tyler]] ... spread the Bad Wolf meme throughout space and time, so she would realise she could use the TARDIS to save the Doctor (thereby creating an [[ontological paradox]])" | |||
I don't see mention of this event in this article. I only see mention of Rose and the Father's Day events. Hasn't Rose created a paradox with potential problems by warning herself to help? How is that even possible if without warning herself, she wouldn't have thought she could help, and wouldn't have had the ability to send the message? [[User talk:Tycio|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tycio|c]] 04:51, September 26, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 04:51, 26 September 2012
2008
article cleaned up
rambling article had a lot speculation and relatively little to do with the Whoniverse. I put in some actual examples. --Stardizzy2 21:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Page name
The page should be left as 'temporal paradox' it's what has been used in multiple articles and in-universe sources. 'Most people' is kinda a subjective term. --Tangerineduel 14:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
2009
Jack Harkness
Ok, so the article says Jack was in WWII as three different points of his life, but wasn't he there four times? using his personal time line, the first would be when he was a con artist trying to scam the Doctor and Rose, the second would be during the time he spent waiting to find the Doctor after newly becoming immortal (while working for Torchwood), then when he went back to the dance hall the night before the real Captain Jack Harkness died, and lastly when he was frozen? I've always wondered about that b/c where ever I look the count is always different that mine. --BJ 26 April 2009, 9:50PM Standard Eastern Time
- The key phrase in the paragraph to which you refer is "at one stage". It's perfectly true to say that "at one stage" of WWII — namely, for the period of The Doctor Dances story — there were only three versions of Jack about. The "fourth Jack" — the one from from Captain Jack Harkness — was only around for the very brief evening in which that episode was set. On the other hand, the sentence would be equally valid in saying that "at one stage of WWII, four Jacks were around". It's just easier concentrating on the three "main" Jacks because then you don't have to explain the complexity that the fourth Jack represents. The full details of Jack's existence in WWII are best left to the main Jack article; what's here is more than enough information to establish the nature of this kind of temporal paradox. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think this belongs here. I think that only paradoxes pointed out as such in the narrative really belong here. I mean,no plots of stories (so far) hinge on the presence of Jack during World War II.--Stardizzy2 18:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- The key phrase in the paragraph to which you refer is "at one stage". It's perfectly true to say that "at one stage" of WWII — namely, for the period of The Doctor Dances story — there were only three versions of Jack about. The "fourth Jack" — the one from from Captain Jack Harkness — was only around for the very brief evening in which that episode was set. On the other hand, the sentence would be equally valid in saying that "at one stage of WWII, four Jacks were around". It's just easier concentrating on the three "main" Jacks because then you don't have to explain the complexity that the fourth Jack represents. The full details of Jack's existence in WWII are best left to the main Jack article; what's here is more than enough information to establish the nature of this kind of temporal paradox. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
2010
The Big Bang
What type of paradox would the Big Bang paradox come under? The Doctor only goes back in time because Rory showed him the screwdriver, alerting him to the fact he went back in time to give Rory the screwdriver in the first place? The Thirteenth Doctor 23:19, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
Predestination Paradox 90.218.185.202 17:09, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
2012
Temporal Anomaly
Are Temporal Anomalies and Temporal Paradoxes similar in any way? 94.6.214.11talk to me 13:24, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
Rose and ontological or temporal paradox
From Bad wolf meme:
- "Rose Tyler ... spread the Bad Wolf meme throughout space and time, so she would realise she could use the TARDIS to save the Doctor (thereby creating an ontological paradox)"
I don't see mention of this event in this article. I only see mention of Rose and the Father's Day events. Hasn't Rose created a paradox with potential problems by warning herself to help? How is that even possible if without warning herself, she wouldn't have thought she could help, and wouldn't have had the ability to send the message? +Yc 04:51, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
