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:::: OK, Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/68.205.81.11|68.205.81.11]]<sup>[[User talk:68.205.81.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:46, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
:::: OK, Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/68.205.81.11|68.205.81.11]]<sup>[[User talk:68.205.81.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:46, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
A Blinovitch discharge is an unlikely weapon. It requires 2 instances (from separate points in the timestream) of the same thing/person & there's a full discharge of the temporal energy. The problem is not that the Daleks couldn't arrange those conditions, it's that there are all kinds of easier ways to power a weapon, especially if the thing is to be as controllable & rapid-firing as the gunstick.
That, however, should not be taken as meaning the Daleks couldn't have used "timey-wimey" weapons in the Time War. They could have & probably did. The gunstick is a '''general-purpose''' weapon, though, not one developed especially for that war or for use specifically against the Time Lords. --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.18.176|2.96.18.176]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.18.176#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:50, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

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Is it reasonable that the Dalek gunstick's discharge is related to the Blinovitch limitation effect?

    -In NSA: Touched by an Angel, Blinovitch limitation fields were characterized by arcs of blue light, electromagnetic interference (enough to short out all of the appliances and electronics in penthouse and cause a house fire), and physical contact with one could leave one charred.

This appears to match the physical description of a Dalek's weapon discharge:

   -The beam is normally blue
   -It's ability to conduct through metal and water suggests electromagnetic properties
   -Victims may be left charred

Being a time-capable species, the Daleks would know about the Blinovitch limitation effect, and their time-travel related power source seems like it would be compatible.

Also, being a species with the technological might to challenge the Time Lords (who wield weapons that delete people's time streams from the universe), it seems unlikely that they would be using technology as comparatively primitive as plasma. A Blinovitch limitation weapon firing time energy seems more appropriately "timey-wimey" to engage the Time Lords in a time war, as a weapon firing time energy may also have properties that affect peoples' time streams that have not been explored. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.205.81.11 (talk).

It's possible, especially for Daleks of the Time War era and later. But unless there's something explicit making that connection in a valid source, we can't say it in an article here. It's just speculation. —Josiah Rowe talk to me 01:46, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. It was only intended to be speculation (I hope I didn't misunderstand the purpose of the talk page). I just want to see if it sounded reasonable. And thank you for pointing out the implicit assumption of Time War and Post Time War Daleks. Those are the ones I was thinking of, but I hadn't noticed that I was accidentally making a statement that was meant to apply to a subset of Daleks instead apply to all Daleks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.205.81.11 (talk).
No problem. Generally, the talk pages are for discussion of changes to the article at hand; general discussion can be found at The Howling. And you can sign your posts by typing four tildes, like this: ~~~~. That will produce something like this: —Josiah Rowe talk to me 15:40, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
OK, Thank you. 68.205.81.11talk to me 18:46, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

A Blinovitch discharge is an unlikely weapon. It requires 2 instances (from separate points in the timestream) of the same thing/person & there's a full discharge of the temporal energy. The problem is not that the Daleks couldn't arrange those conditions, it's that there are all kinds of easier ways to power a weapon, especially if the thing is to be as controllable & rapid-firing as the gunstick.

That, however, should not be taken as meaning the Daleks couldn't have used "timey-wimey" weapons in the Time War. They could have & probably did. The gunstick is a general-purpose weapon, though, not one developed especially for that war or for use specifically against the Time Lords. --2.96.18.176talk to me 22:50, September 4, 2012 (UTC)