Talk:The Power of Three (TV story)

Date

Looks like there's some confusion as to the dating of this episode.

"It is ten years since the events of The Eleventh Hour, dating this story to be set in 2018."

"By 2020, Kate had dropped the name "Lethbridge" when she became the head of scientific research to UNIT so as to avoid favours." (from Kate Stewart)

As far as I remember, Amy says that it's been 10 years for her, counting both real life and travels with the Doctor. In her and Rory's "real life", a much shorter time has passed. 78.8.2.156^{talk to me} 00:15, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

This isn't the only proof we have that the story is set in 2020. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:10, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

I thought they said they had been married for 10 years. Since they were married in 2010, it is 2020. --Desariella 02:10, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Look, will someone just go and get a direct quote? We're all arguing over what was said! OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 03:11, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Chronologically, "The Power of Three" takes place for the Amy, Rory, and Brian after "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship." Rory states that he is 31-years-old in DoaS. We know from "Let's Kill Hitler" that he and Amy are approximately the same age and Amy was born in 1989, making her seven in 1996 during "The Eleventh Hour." 1989+31=2020. Therefore, "The Power of Three" has to take place in 2020 at the earliest. 75.141.237.131^{talk to me} 03:19, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

It is clearly stated by Amy both that it has been ten years for her and that it has NOT been ten years for the rest of the world meaning that it must have been significantly sooner that 2020. Also, the Ponds earlier mentioned that they were aging significantly faster than their friends. It is most likely that this story is meant to take after 2012 but well before 2020.

Doesn't The Hungry Earth hint that Amy and Rory have their 10th anniversary in 2020?

On the other hand, if that's true, why didn't Amy and Rory drive to Wales to wave at their younger selves? I know history can change (especially given that Rory was erased and recreated and the whole universe was rebooted since then), so they don't _have_ to do it, but I can't imagine that they wouldn't _want_ to do it. If you were them, celebrating your 10th anniversary, reminiscing over your decade with the Doctor, and agonizing over whether to give up traveling through time with him, how could you possibly pass that up? --70.36.140.233^{talk to me} 07:18, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Also, their friends and family (except Brian) don't know about their time travel, so could they really be talking to anyone about their 10th anniversary in, say, 2014? It's not impossible that they celebrated a private 10th anniversary with the Doctor and a public 2nd anniversary with their friends, but the episode doesn't give us any clue that such a thing happens.

Anyway, last week we heard about how they're getting older faster than their friends, but this week we heard everyone talking about how they disappear for months at a time and then come back as if they'd just stepped out. So really, there's as much evidence for 2030 as for 2014. Maybe the best we can say is that we have no idea when it took place. --70.36.140.233^{talk to me} 07:23, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Amy and Rory disappeared for seven weeks in the middle of their anniversary, it's not impossible or even necessarily unlikely that they made a pit-stop in Wales. Anywho, Amy does suggest that she has been growing older faster, and specifically says "We think it's been ten years." Seeing as their concern is getting too old too fast (and not staying young too long), it's implied that it has been less than ten years in the real world, thus 2020 at the latest. Rory may be older than Amy (making the 31-year reference make sense), and even still, he may be actually 31 while not being recognized as 31 on Earth (ex. if he spent two years travelling, it would be the year 2018, etc.) All we can say for certain right now is that it is 2020 at the absolute latest. I'm going to go back and do some math from the other episodes, but based on how they refer to how long it's been since they've seen him each time, this episode likely takes place around 2016. Can't confirm just yet. d ●•· 14:24, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

On the Brigadier page it says that he dies in the 2050s. This doesn't make sense with the the Power of Three because Kate as good as says that her dad is dead. SO either he didn't die at the time given, or this story is set when Amy and Rory are over 60 which I highly doubt.

(Sign your posts on talk pages.) Outside of his close circle of confidantes, and a few key people in the UNIT hierarchy, most people believe he died in 2010. Since he and Kate were estranged, she probably didn't know the truth.

Anyway, if you don't accept that explanation, I think the only other reasonable possibility is a continuity error (or, of course, "history can change). The episode definitely doesn't take place in the 2050s. And it would be odd for the series to suddenly contradict everything the novels told us about the Brig in the very same episode they introduced his daughter from the novels. Especially considering how hard it is to make sense of the SJA stories without some explanation for how he went from old and retired in 2009 to going on a top secret mission in Peru for most of 2010… --70.36.140.233^{talk to me} 12:48, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Kate is not from the novels. She is from Downtime. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 13:18, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Date: Quote from episode

Amy says "We think it's been 10 years. Not for you, or for Earth, but for us. 10 years older, 10 years of you, on and off." --Desariella