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Can an admin get rid of the Mysteries and discrepencies section and maybe re-integrate it into the early history section? It's implicitly giving priority to ''[[Spare Parts (audio story)|Spare Parts]]'' and ''[[Iceberg (novel)|Iceberg]]'' and ignoring ''[[The World Shapers (comic story)|The World Shapers]]''{{'}} explanation of [[Planet 14]], which we're not supposed to do per [[T:NPOV]]. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 16:49, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
Can an admin get rid of the Mysteries and discrepencies section and maybe re-integrate it into the early history section? It's implicitly giving priority to ''[[Spare Parts (audio story)|Spare Parts]]'' and ''[[Iceberg (novel)|Iceberg]]'' and ignoring ''[[The World Shapers (comic story)|The World Shapers]]''{{'}} explanation of [[Planet 14]], which we're not supposed to do per [[T:NPOV]]. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 16:49, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
== Star Trek crossover ==
The Star Trek crossover comics are and should be treated as a separate history as the two franchises are separate having referenced each other as fiction several times, (The most recent being Rose giving the 9th Doctor the name, "Spock").

Revision as of 12:28, 6 September 2013

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Integrating info from Nightmare in Silver

This article is locked until the end of series 7b. This will give us all a week to sort of digest what's been shown in Nightmare in Silver and hopefully figure out a sort of direction to take going forward. In doing so, we need to keep a few things clear:

  • The main infobox pic for this page will always come from the original series, or perhaps comics clearly based on the original series. Period. The bulk of the appearances of this type of Cyberman were in the original series, and any new series appearances are simply not representative.
  • There will be no assertion of a connection between the original and modern series Cybermen (or to put it in other terms, the Mondasian and Cybus Cybermen) except from narrative sources. Neil Gaiman interviews don't count.

So, those two provisos clearly made, use this page to discuss how this article might be improved with information from Nightmare in Silver.
czechout<staff />    02:38: Sun 12 May 2013

I'd have to rewatch the episode for specific references, but the Cybermen in the episode reference Mondasian Cyberman events as part of their history, such as the Cyber-Wars. At the beginning of the episode, Cybus Cybermen (with logos) are seen, suggesting that it was initially them that had invaded in the past. However, the new Cybermen that feature for the majority of the episode are implied to be Mondasian, what with a shared history, and a shared weakness for gold and cleaning fluid not necessarily true of their Cybus counterparts.
I think perhaps this should be brought to The Panopticon, so that it can gain attention over the next week, as it affects many pages and which Cyberman page we link to. We're currently linking here on all pages related to Nightmare in Silver.
--SOTO 05:47, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

The World Shapers

Can an admin get rid of the Mysteries and discrepencies section and maybe re-integrate it into the early history section? It's implicitly giving priority to Spare Parts and Iceberg and ignoring The World Shapers' explanation of Planet 14, which we're not supposed to do per T:NPOV. -- Tybort (talk page) 16:49, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Star Trek crossover

The Star Trek crossover comics are and should be treated as a separate history as the two franchises are separate having referenced each other as fiction several times, (The most recent being Rose giving the 9th Doctor the name, "Spock").