Howling:The Voice in the TARDIS

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In "the Pandorica Opens" back when the cracks were the big threat of the day, River is trapped on an exploding TARDIS. During this point, a voice warns "Silence Will Fall" just before everything gets kind of hectic. No one's made mention of that voice, not really in universe or out since then. Now that we've seen what might be the end of the Prophesy or at least the beginning of it, I think it bears wondering. WHO was that voice? Was it the Great Intelligence, falling back through the Doctor's Time Stream? Was it something else? Or will possible be left alone and never mentioned again? Vohn exel ☎ 06:49, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Moffat confirmed in an interview it was the Silence that blow up the TARDIS. Why we don't know and it probably should have been shown in an episode. Either way we can assume the voice was the agent they sent to destroy the TARDIS. 82.19.216.220^{talk to me} 09:14, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, well, if Moffat said it in an interview, it must be true! It's not as if he ever lies about what's going on. (Enough of the sarcasm.) --89.241.67.154^{talk to me} 11:52, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Yes indeed "Moffat said it in a interview", honestly. You're absolutely right he should have put it in the story, as far as the site's concerned and as a rule among fans about many shows, nothing anyone says about events in the story are true unless they are confirmed in the story. All the same can we have the interview please, seeing the context could help? Also it'll probably be worth listening to that voice referred to if it sounds like a "Silent" ie a potential "Silent" on the TARDIS then it would go a long way to confirming what Steven Moffat said. Have you done that or are you just taking it for granted when you make that "assumption"?DCT ☎ 12:19, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Not only are out-of-universe statements by Moffat unreliable -- the man has openly said that he lies to preserve the surprises in his stories -- but also the fact that it hasn't been revealed in an episode means he (or another writer) could simply give a different explanation without needing to "explain away" any discrepancy. That's been done before & it was done by a writer far less deceptive than Moffat:

When he wrote Dragonfire, Ian Briggs had no idea who or what was responsible for the "time storm" that took Ace from Perivale to Ice World. He said so in a note on the script & pointed out that the writer of some future story would need to explain what had happened. As it turned out, that writer was himself & the future story was The Curse of Fenric, 2 years later. Because no explanation had been given in any episode, he wasn't obstructed by having anything to fit in with or to explain away.

Moffat, in The Snowmen, likewise had no contradictory explanation to fit in with or to explain away when, after over forty years, he showed us the origins of the Great Intelligence & let us know why it attacked the London Underground in The Web of Fear.

As long as there's been no in-universe explanation, a future writer (Moffat or another) can do with the TARDIS explosion, even after a delay of several decades, what Moffat did with the "Yetis in the Underground" incident: explain it retroactively. --89.241.67.154^{talk to me} 14:50, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Except I'm less sure that Moffat genuinely doesn't know why the TARDIS exploded. He's running the show leading to 50th Anniversary and even if he hasn't got a clue or was thwarted somehow in explaining it I still think he wants us to think he knows. It's hard to understand why he would answer a question on the TARDIS explosion at the moment though it tells us very little whether or or it's true. We still really need the quote if it exists.DCT ☎ 16:33, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

The more we know in story the less the statement seems to make sense. Blowing up the Tardis to get the Daleks and Cybermen to put the Doctor in the Pandorica doesn't kill the Doctor, kills River rather than the Doctor in the exploding Tardis, and probably destroys the universe. That all seems not consistent with the stated goal of the Silence. Unless they somehow knew how it would all work out, and they risked the existence of the Universe to get Amy and Rory together to make Melody, in order to have a weapon to kill the Doctor later.

What could they fear as the danger of Trenzelore which would be worse than the destruction of the universe?Phil Stone ☎ 17:21, June 13, 2013 (UTC)