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Wanna know what that means? It means there is (or might be) also an [[Alzarian]]!Clara, [[Trakenite]]!Clara, [[Trion]]-ese!Clara, and other Clara Echos in all humanoid species on most planets. (Of course since Clara Prime was an human- specifically the 2015's human Clara, all the non-human human-looking species have only one Echo Clara each.) Maybe the Doctor has already travelled with Echo Claras or relatives of Echo Claras, but he does not know it. As in one flashback scene Clara replaced [[Leela of the Sevateem]], Leela herself might actually be just Seevateem!Clara, just with a fake-tan, auburn dye, and going by an "honorary" nickname she may have gained after doing something in a rite-of-passage. Or as the human Clara Echos all happen to have the Oswald last name, maybe it's actually Clara "Leela" Oswald and her father David "Sole" Oswald, but they do not know they have a surname + are always going by honorary names. Or maybe if Leela is Clara it does not mean Sole is Dave, as even if Clara's biological father has to be same or similiar in all echos, some (or all) of the Claras might have been raised by a "father" that was not biological. (Plus, not only Sole looked a bit too old to see it perfectly, but faces can get longer with time. He's the one with white hair in the page image, right? He could as easily TOO just have a fake-tan and bleached, longer hair and beard, possibly just because of their different lifestyles, or because dying your hair and wearing fake tans is a Sevateem!Oswald's thing. And for Leela not caring for children as much as Clara does, maybe Sevateem women just do not care for children, or just most child Sevateem are always off doing something like studying stuff or catching preys. Any differences in facial features or build are either to: 1) Sevateems having a rougher lifestyle and different techs than your regular 2015's human, 2) Being played by Louise Jameson and not by Jenna Louise Coleman due to the latter not being born yet, 3) The appearances of various characters might be semi-simbolic and not actually what the character looks exactly like, think like how Kingdom Hearts fangirls often change Organization XIII's personality, and also change their eye colors\heights\face\skin colors to match their fanon personalities better. --[[User:Kaylabaraonda|Kaylabaraonda]] [[User talk:Kaylabaraonda|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:34, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
Wanna know what that means? It means there is (or might be) also an [[Alzarian]]!Clara, [[Trakenite]]!Clara, [[Trion]]-ese!Clara, and other Clara Echos in all humanoid species on most planets. (Of course since Clara Prime was an human- specifically the 2015's human Clara, all the non-human human-looking species have only one Echo Clara each.) Maybe the Doctor has already travelled with Echo Claras or relatives of Echo Claras, but he does not know it. As in one flashback scene Clara replaced [[Leela of the Sevateem]], Leela herself might actually be just Seevateem!Clara, just with a fake-tan, auburn dye, and going by an "honorary" nickname she may have gained after doing something in a rite-of-passage. Or as the human Clara Echos all happen to have the Oswald last name, maybe it's actually Clara "Leela" Oswald and her father David "Sole" Oswald, but they do not know they have a surname + are always going by honorary names. Or maybe if Leela is Clara it does not mean Sole is Dave, as even if Clara's biological father has to be same or similiar in all echos, some (or all) of the Claras might have been raised by a "father" that was not biological. (Plus, not only Sole looked a bit too old to see it perfectly, but faces can get longer with time. He's the one with white hair in the page image, right? He could as easily TOO just have a fake-tan and bleached, longer hair and beard, possibly just because of their different lifestyles, or because dying your hair and wearing fake tans is a Sevateem!Oswald's thing. And for Leela not caring for children as much as Clara does, maybe Sevateem women just do not care for children, or just most child Sevateem are always off doing something like studying stuff or catching preys. Any differences in facial features or build are either to: 1) Sevateems having a rougher lifestyle and different techs than your regular 2015's human, 2) Being played by Louise Jameson and not by Jenna Louise Coleman due to the latter not being born yet, 3) The appearances of various characters might be semi-simbolic and not actually what the character looks exactly like, think like how Kingdom Hearts fangirls often change Organization XIII's personality, and also change their eye colors\heights\face\skin colors to match their fanon personalities better. --[[User:Kaylabaraonda|Kaylabaraonda]] [[User talk:Kaylabaraonda|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:34, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
::This is speculation, and as such only belongs on [[Howling:The Howling]]. Per [[Tardis:Discussion policy]], talk pages are for discussing the '''editing''' of articles, not for discussing subjects that can only be answered with speculation. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:43, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
::This is speculation, and as such only belongs on [[Howling:The Howling]]. Per [[Tardis:Discussion policy]], talk pages are for discussing the '''editing''' of articles, not for discussing subjects that can only be answered with speculation. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:43, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
So apart from the idea that there may in fact be a Clara on every planet the Doctor's visited, meaning a Clara for every (humanoid) species, we know for sure that there is a human Clara and dalek Clara, but we also know there's a gallifreyan Clara, so why can't we put "Gallifreyan" in the species box to join "Human,Dalek"? Just because we saw her as a Dalek longer than we saw her as a Galliffreyan doesn't mean we can't ignore her being a Gallifreyan. Otherwise, just keep her species only Human.
The problem is the "born and died, lived a million lives" line. If Clara entered the timestream and was split apart or just kept traveling and was a single person the whole time, then she would be Human. If she were born on a planet save the Doctor, then that echo becomes that species.
If the second theory is correct, then Clara was born on Gallifrey and was a Gallifreyan. If the first theory is correct, then she was always only Human, in which case she was converted into a Dalek. So which is it? [[User:Steed|Steed]] [[User talk:Steed|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, July 23, 2014 (UTC)


== Memory ==
== Memory ==

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Thanks! Shambala108 14:46, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Time Lord?

Clara was on galifrey as an echo at one point but isnt it that all claras get brain pattern and genetic pattern meaning she must be human or idk ther is no information to explain either way she could of not been born ther and just appeared for that moment 79.68.241.70talk to me 19:02, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

The way I understand it is that after jumping into the Doctors timeline, her personality and likeness where really all that was the same between the different versions of Clara. When she sees the Doctor steal the TARDIS, it is likely that incarnation of Clara was either an average Gallifreyan, or Time Lady. 71.60.37.160talk to me 07:04, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

That is my understanding as well, supported by the evidence that Oswin Oswald and Clara from Snowmen are both physical beings. The scattering creates many copies with the same likeness, similar name, similar personality, and an inbuilt instinct to trust and help the Doctor. Therefore that version of Clara is, biologically, Gallifreyan. Whether she has graduated from the Academy and is a Time Lord, is a question that cannot be answered, as there is not enough information given. 76.115.85.249talk to me 04:26, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Wanna know what that means? It means there is (or might be) also an Alzarian!Clara, Trakenite!Clara, Trion-ese!Clara, and other Clara Echos in all humanoid species on most planets. (Of course since Clara Prime was an human- specifically the 2015's human Clara, all the non-human human-looking species have only one Echo Clara each.) Maybe the Doctor has already travelled with Echo Claras or relatives of Echo Claras, but he does not know it. As in one flashback scene Clara replaced Leela of the Sevateem, Leela herself might actually be just Seevateem!Clara, just with a fake-tan, auburn dye, and going by an "honorary" nickname she may have gained after doing something in a rite-of-passage. Or as the human Clara Echos all happen to have the Oswald last name, maybe it's actually Clara "Leela" Oswald and her father David "Sole" Oswald, but they do not know they have a surname + are always going by honorary names. Or maybe if Leela is Clara it does not mean Sole is Dave, as even if Clara's biological father has to be same or similiar in all echos, some (or all) of the Claras might have been raised by a "father" that was not biological. (Plus, not only Sole looked a bit too old to see it perfectly, but faces can get longer with time. He's the one with white hair in the page image, right? He could as easily TOO just have a fake-tan and bleached, longer hair and beard, possibly just because of their different lifestyles, or because dying your hair and wearing fake tans is a Sevateem!Oswald's thing. And for Leela not caring for children as much as Clara does, maybe Sevateem women just do not care for children, or just most child Sevateem are always off doing something like studying stuff or catching preys. Any differences in facial features or build are either to: 1) Sevateems having a rougher lifestyle and different techs than your regular 2015's human, 2) Being played by Louise Jameson and not by Jenna Louise Coleman due to the latter not being born yet, 3) The appearances of various characters might be semi-simbolic and not actually what the character looks exactly like, think like how Kingdom Hearts fangirls often change Organization XIII's personality, and also change their eye colors\heights\face\skin colors to match their fanon personalities better. --Kaylabaraonda 13:34, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

This is speculation, and as such only belongs on Howling:The Howling. Per Tardis:Discussion policy, talk pages are for discussing the editing of articles, not for discussing subjects that can only be answered with speculation. Thanks. Shambala108 13:43, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

So apart from the idea that there may in fact be a Clara on every planet the Doctor's visited, meaning a Clara for every (humanoid) species, we know for sure that there is a human Clara and dalek Clara, but we also know there's a gallifreyan Clara, so why can't we put "Gallifreyan" in the species box to join "Human,Dalek"? Just because we saw her as a Dalek longer than we saw her as a Galliffreyan doesn't mean we can't ignore her being a Gallifreyan. Otherwise, just keep her species only Human. The problem is the "born and died, lived a million lives" line. If Clara entered the timestream and was split apart or just kept traveling and was a single person the whole time, then she would be Human. If she were born on a planet save the Doctor, then that echo becomes that species. If the second theory is correct, then Clara was born on Gallifrey and was a Gallifreyan. If the first theory is correct, then she was always only Human, in which case she was converted into a Dalek. So which is it? Steed 02:31, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Memory

It wasn't really clear in The Day of the Doctor if Clara retained her memories of past incarnations after The Name of the Doctor. The preceding unsigned comment was added by DraconisWombat13203 (talk • contribs) .

She probably had them wiped or only retained very small accounts

they have to be in some shape or form the same person since clara vaguely recalls saving the doctor but does not remember where so we must assume she retained very little All Hail Aslan 18:43, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Suggest

Suggest Moving of the other lives section to part of her history since they happend to her in her life Silence Fall 17:07, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Library Clara

How do we know the Echo-Clara that was seen in the Library was the same one that got made into a Dalek, Oswin Oswald? Am I forgetting something? Were they wearing the same clothes or what? --86.29.7.17talk to me 05:07, January 2, 2014 (UTC)


Definatly positavely All Hail Aslan 18:45, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Correction to name needed

All references to "modern" Clara need to have the name "Oswin" removed as it is not her middle name as clearly stated in Bells of Saint John. So "Clara Oswin Oswald" was not born in 1989, but "Clara Oswald" was. If she has a middle name we've yet to learn it. 68.146.70.124talk to me 23:02, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Did Clara go to university?

I noticed this page says "Clara wanted to travel after university." The reference for this is listed as The Bells of Saint John, however I'm quite sure this fact was never established on screen in any episode. Was this mentioned in a book or other type of media, and if so can we have the correct reference? --121.45.249.181talk to me 15:29, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Clara and Twelve - a bit early?

Isn't it a bit early to be declaring Clara Oswald a Twelfth Doctor companion? Yes, she is present at his regeneration, but that does not necessarily mean she will end up travelling with him. And per T:SPOIL and T:OFF REL, we can't really say such a thing until she see her travelling with him in months' time.

If you'd like to discuss {{companions of the Twelfth Doctor}} specifically, please go to Template talk:Companions of the Twelfth Doctor. --SOTO (/\) 22:46, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

Comment

There is some missing information here.The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.122.226.10 (talk).

There is probably missing information for all the pages on this wiki. You have to be more specific.
Also, please read Tardis:Discussion policy. Most of your talk page edits have been removed for violating this policy. Shambala108 19:25, February 26, 2014 (UTC)