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How can the War Doctor's and the Tenth Doctor's and the Eleventh Doctor's screwdrivers be the same? The original blue, owned by the War, Ninth and Tenth (in a part of his life) was destroyed in ''Smith and Jones''. Later Tenth acquired a new identical one that was destroyed by Eleventh's use of it in ''The Eleventh Hour''. Then the TARDIS made a new green one to him. (If I'm not wrong it was also destroyed and replaced with an identical green one (not sure there)) How can the War Doctor's scanning be calculating in Tenth and Eleventh's sonic's?? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:47, May 5, 2014 (UTC) | How can the War Doctor's and the Tenth Doctor's and the Eleventh Doctor's screwdrivers be the same? The original blue, owned by the War, Ninth and Tenth (in a part of his life) was destroyed in ''Smith and Jones''. Later Tenth acquired a new identical one that was destroyed by Eleventh's use of it in ''The Eleventh Hour''. Then the TARDIS made a new green one to him. (If I'm not wrong it was also destroyed and replaced with an identical green one (not sure there)) How can the War Doctor's scanning be calculating in Tenth and Eleventh's sonic's?? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:47, May 5, 2014 (UTC) | ||
I believe the idea is that the screwdrivers are the same 'at a software level' i.e the program(s) that the sonic screwdriver runs remains the same and as such the software (which could possibly be located in the TARDIS or something given its abilities to fart out a new sonic for the Doctor in The Eleventh Hour) carried on doing the necessary calculation. Oh, and just a heads up but I think this kind of thing belongs in the discontinuity guide (if we still use that) rather than the talk page. [[User:ScotchAutopilot|ScotchAutopilot]] [[User talk:ScotchAutopilot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:12, May 5, 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Marks
I'm starting to see our section headers being used as "official" names for the various iterations. Other articles are now using terms like "the Mark IV sonic", as if that means something.
Is there any source for this mark business? If not, it needs to be stripped from the article, replaced by more defensible, plain English terms like, "the Second Doctor's screwdriver", "the screwdriver that the Tenth Doctor used" and the like.
We need to resist the fannish urge to number things that actually have no number in any valid source.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 14:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013
- Additionally, the use of numbers has made the article internally incomprehensible, since Big Finish recently retroactively gave the Eighth Doctor a new sonic. This means that what was once the "Mark VI" is now the "Mark VII", and so on. There's absolutely no narrative reason why Big Finish couldn't give Five, Six or Seven a temporary sonic in future. Or why they might not give Eight another new sonic at some point. So if there is no source for the numbering of these sonics, the article needs to be wholly rewritten so as to use terms that are absolute, rather than numbers which are relative.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013- Maybe we need to start a forum for changing this to your suggestions. Right now there's something of an edit war between two (or more) IP users who keep changing the "marks" back and forth. Shambala108 ☎ 16:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
- In the book Seeing I, The Doctor builds a new sonic screwdriver, and then names it the mark 9! This shows just how inaccurate our attempts at numbering are. I think this wiki (which considers the books canon) needs to give up attempts at numbering the sonic screwdrivers. Holmes1963
Non-canon toys
There are a lot of new sonic screwdriver toys hitting the market lately, including some that aren't in the show (the "Build Your Own" and "Trans-temporal" sets, in particular). Should these be added in, and if so, how? --King Starscream ☎ 17:40, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
New uses
The uses from The Time of the Doctor should be added. Timppali ☎ 15:24, December 27, 2013 (UTC)
Non-Canon Appearances?
I notice how in the Sonic Screwdriver Page, we have a list for all the uses which it has throughout the show. Although, Not sure if this has been suggested before, but should we also inclued a small section in that page that lists the Non-Canon uses that it has? Examples being stuff like; The Shalka Doctor using it to turn the Tardis Phone into a Door or turning Catherine Tate into a Rose Figure in that Sketch Show?
Like said, I'm not sure if this hasn't been suggested before, but should there be something for that, if one doesn't exsist already?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by BabClayton (talk • contribs) .
- Basically, no, because we are trying to keep non-DWU stuff off the in-universe pages. Shambala108 ☎ 21:40, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
Having been destroyed
How can the War Doctor's and the Tenth Doctor's and the Eleventh Doctor's screwdrivers be the same? The original blue, owned by the War, Ninth and Tenth (in a part of his life) was destroyed in Smith and Jones. Later Tenth acquired a new identical one that was destroyed by Eleventh's use of it in The Eleventh Hour. Then the TARDIS made a new green one to him. (If I'm not wrong it was also destroyed and replaced with an identical green one (not sure there)) How can the War Doctor's scanning be calculating in Tenth and Eleventh's sonic's?? --DCLM ☎ 13:47, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
I believe the idea is that the screwdrivers are the same 'at a software level' i.e the program(s) that the sonic screwdriver runs remains the same and as such the software (which could possibly be located in the TARDIS or something given its abilities to fart out a new sonic for the Doctor in The Eleventh Hour) carried on doing the necessary calculation. Oh, and just a heads up but I think this kind of thing belongs in the discontinuity guide (if we still use that) rather than the talk page. ScotchAutopilot ☎ 15:12, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
