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Upcoming releases

Hi! Please don't post any information about upcoming releases. This is a violation of Tardis:Spoiler policy. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 19:04, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Eleventh Doctor

Hi! Please do not add a "fun facts" section to articles. If it's a valid point, there will be a place for it. Shambala108 ☎ 23:24, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Block

Please don't personally attack people as you did at Thread:145998, because such attacks obligate me to block you, as made perfectly explicit at Tardis:No personal attacks#Consequences of personal attacks. The fact that you apologised on Digifiend's page was a positive action on your part, and so the block will be considerably less than it might have been. I'm going to have to ask — well, okay, compel — you to take a break for 72 hours. When you come back, please remember that it's Christmas, the season of good will towards others.

Also, please remember when you leave a message on someone's talk page to sign your post with four tildes, like this:

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czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  16:43: Sun 15 Dec 2013

Countdown clock

The countdown clock is a bit of code from w:c:dev:countdown. Instructions are there.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  23:54: Tue 01 Jul 2014

Spoiler policy

This is now the second time you have been warned about violating Tardis:Spoiler policy. Please read it immediately, and for good measure, read the warning on the wiki's front page regarding the early showings of series 8 episodes. Shambala108 ☎ 00:16, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

• It is not a spoiler. If you are talking about the episode name itself, then that has been confirmed. If you are talking about the trailer, it was released on the Doctor Who YouTube channel here: <removed per Tardis:Video policy>

Since it is a trailer, there is very little probability that it will be in the episode. - 120d

Read the spoiler policy before you try to argue that this info is not a spoiler. While you're at it, also read Tardis:Video policy. I've removed your video link because we never allow off-site links to videos. Shambala108 ☎ 00:42, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

The rules seem to be a bit hazy on videos because it states that links to videos on user name spaces, like this one are allowed. However, it says to videos you have created. I am not entirely sure that you should have deleted the link. Things like this should really be clarified better. It doesn't really say anything about links for spoiler videos in either the spoilers section or the links section. For the info on the Eleventh Doctor, again the info is not very clear on the Spoiler policy. It says "A spoiler is any information — in-universe or behind-the-scenes — coming from a story which has not yet been officially released in its entirety." "Information" is the key word, is it all information or is it just plot? Since it is a voice over and about 10% of the time has a voice over actually been in the episode, I think that it should be allowed. However, I will not continue to fight and start an edit war, if you agree to allow this information after the episode is released. Rufus 01:03, August 10, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Per the video policy, non-admin users may not upload videos at all. That trumps the rest of the policy. Further down, it says you cannot link to off-site videos; you can only upload videos you created, but that doesn't include recording of copyright material. Most importantly, no images or videos for unreleased stories can be uploaded, period, end of sentence.

As for the spoiler policy, I don't know how it can be made more clear. It says any information from an unreleased story. The first episode of series 8 has not yet been released, so no information from it can be added to the wiki.

Off-topic, you will need to fix your user signature. All signatures must have links to the user page and user talk page (see Tardis:Signature Policy). Shambala108 ☎ 01:21, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

First, you should worry about people's signatures. I am pretty sure that you don't need to link to your user page on your own talk page because it is linked in a tab above. Also, there are a lot of policies.

Second, do you agree to allow the information after the premiere date of <removed per Tardis:Spoiler policy> (I mean the official, not a few days ago.) 10:45, August 10, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Re:Images

It's not my job (or any other admin's) to chase after users who upload images without reading through our policies. That being said, I usually try to inform users when they've violated an image policy, but I was too busy trying to keep your spoilers off the wiki (which is a far more serious issue).

The thing is, many of our basic policies are located at the top of a user's talk page, and the license policy is part of the upload process. You didn't read it, so you made a mistake. Many users do, and now you know what to do. However, I suggest you read our image policies thoroughly (you can find them all at Thread:148148), because your Peter Butterworth image is not widescreen, which is required for all images. Shambala108 ☎ 01:21, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

First, I think that I should point out, that I am not for spoilers at all. I am completely against them, the reason I added the information was because it was available. Second, did you read all of the policies before editing? Third, there are two problems with the last sentence in your message. 1. I do not own the film in which it came from, as I said before on your talk page, it came from his Wikipedia article. 2. I don't even know what movie it came from. If I did, I would probably have found a better quality image of it. The only reason I know it came from is because of the licensing on the image on Wikipedia. In other words, there is no way for me to have gotten a widescreen image. Since he died in the 1990s, there is little possibility that the movie even comes in wide screen. Rufus 10:56, August 10, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Summing up

I'm starting a new topic to cover the different issues raised on your page.

• Please read the spoiler policy thoroughly. You have continually violated it by repeatedly posting the title of the first series 8 episode. This is your last warning regarding this issue.

• Please read the image policies. We have reasons for wanting images to be widescreen. If you can't find a widescreen image, or crop an existing image, then don't post it.

• To sum up the video policy, you cannot ever link to a video off-site. The only videos you can upload have to be your creation, and they can only appear on your user page and talk page.

• Your signature violates policy by not linking back to both your user and talk pages. Right now it only links to your user page, but it must also link to your talk page. If it's a customized signature, you need to fix it. If you are using the four tildes as your signature, it's somehow not showing up properly and you need to mention that here.

• Yes we have a lot of policies but we are a big wiki. It is every user's responsibility to read policies. Period. I have spent a lot of time trying to explain page-long policies to you, but you don't seem interested in reading them. If you want to successfully edit here without your edits being removed, read the policies.

Finally, it's the custom on this wiki (and apparently on other wikis too), when someone posts a message on your talk page, you respond on their talk page. This way, they get a message saying you've responded. When you responded on your talk page, I didn't even know you had responded. If you had responded on my talk page, I would get a little notification sign in the corner of my screen as well as an email. Then I would know you had responded to my post. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎ 01:55, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Block

Sorry, I have to block you. You apparently have not read the policies I have quoted above, but you think that it's not necessary to follow them. Tardis:You are bound by current policy says that we all have to follow the policies, whether we agree with them or not. Admins are allowed certain actions that help to enforce the policies, such as removing information that violates Tardis:Spoiler policy.

Your block will last for a month to give you time to not only read our policies, but observe them in action during the time that new episodes approach and air. Then maybe you will have an understanding of how we view spoilers and how we deal with them. Shambala108 ☎ 01:20, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

I did read all of the policies. Do not just claim something that you do not know is true. This is completely unfair. I stopped breaking your rules. You cannot block someone for breaking rules he or she didn't break. You are abusing your powers. Rufus 22:34, August 12, 2014 (UTC) 120d

My mistake. I assumed you kept breaking the spoiler policy because you hadn't read the policy. Now I understand that you kept breaking the spoiler policy in spite of having read the policy. The block stands.

You are of course free to visit Help:I'm blocked and follow the instructions on that page. Shambala108 ☎ 20:16, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

Responding to your points

Responding to the numbered points you left on my talk page:

• By this wiki's definition, an episode title is a spoiler. That is why I removed it.
• Admins can remove any content from any page if it violates a policy. (see Tardis:Other people's user pages) The spoiler policy is one of the most important policies on the wiki.
• Someone breaking the rules/policies is the only legitimate reason for removing content from their pages.
• We have lots of image policies, and there are reasons for all of them. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they aren't valid.
• I am not the ruler of this wiki, but I am an admin, which means my main job is to enforce policies. Few of the other admins are actively editing, which is why it looks like I'm the only in charge, but trust me, they are there.
• I hate to throw more rules at you, but calling people names is a violation of Tardis:No personal attacks, which is probably the most important rule on this wiki. So when you are no longer blocked, please remember not to call other users names just because you disagree with them.
• Kudos for fixing your signature, and for replying on my talk page instead of your own.

Basically, we are a big wiki and we have a lot of rules. If we didn't, we would have chaos and a crappy wiki. The rules help us maintain what is probably the most useful source of DWU material on the internet. No one agrees with all the rules, but if we wish to edit here, we must abide by them. I hope you understand this. Shambala108 ☎ 01:45, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

First, please start numbering in the future. It makes it easier for me.

Second, The second sentence in your last point is false. Just because a lot of people might contribute doesn't mean that you need a lot of rules.

Third, did anyone (non-admins) vote on these policies?

Fourth, I still think that you are taking this out of hand. Also, why did you give me a month block. This is my second block and I am pretty sure that a month is a bit long for a block.

Rufus 22:56, August 12, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Re your first point, no thank you.

Re your second point, when I say big wiki, I mean the amount of material, not the number of contributors.

Re your third point, yes everyone is able to contribute whenever a policy discussion is under way. Once a policy is enacted, everyone is bound to follow it, even if they didn't discuss/vote on it.

Re your fourth point, the month-long block is to allow you to see how we handle spoilers during an active season. Maybe seeing it in action will convince you how serious we are about the spoiler policy. Shambala108 ☎ 20:16, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

First, that is kind of rude and I would like a reason for not using numbering.

Third, Okay.

Fourth, I feel that a month is/was way too long, especially since it was only going to be a few weeks until it premiered.

Fifth, I completely apologize for my behavior. I did not know that it was in the episode. I will never assume that something is not in an episode again. Can you please unblock me so that I can appropriately edit on this wiki? I was thinking about adding a page called "The Promise Land", if it is not created by the time you read this.

Rufus 08:11, August 26, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Sorry, although I do appreciate your apology, the block stands. You basically admitted you had read the spoiler policy but still posted spoilers. The month-long block is to give you a chance to see how we treat spoilers during an actual season/series. In addition, blocks for violating Tardis:Spoiler policy are usually longer than a month, and sometimes are permanent, so in my opinion you got off easy. Shambala108 ☎ 16:49, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

How about until the end of August? I will have spent a majority of the block. It will only be 12 days left. For you to not let me go is to be the prison warden who doesn't let the person go even though they posted bail. I both apologized and waited until the episode aired. I should also note, you were the person who assumed I was guilty of a crime, even though I technically didn't break any laws. It is more that I accidentally did a crime, instead of blatantly just doing it. In other words, It was not technically a spoiler because the info was widely available to the public. I did put up a spoiler, but since neither of us knew that it was a spoiler at the time, (You just assumed it was because it was in a trailer.) I should not be block or should have my block lessened. Also, a funny thing about the word "basically" is that when someone uses it, it is usually not applicable at all. Saying "You basically admitted you read the spoiler policy but still posted spoilers." is like saying "I think that you admitted or I wanted you to admit that you read the spoiler policy, but still posted spoilers." I never said that I read the spoiler policy and put up spoilers. The closest thing I said was something like "I read the rules, but I don't think it is a spoiler." After the fact means nothing. It should be more of breaking the rules to not let someone go after he or she learned his or her lesson than to accidentally spoil an episode. All I want to do is contribute to this wiki like 99% of the rest of the wiki. I am sorry that I made a mistake, but we all do. Even you. Rufus 21:12, August 26, 2014 (UTC) 120d

Tophat templates

Please do not make tophat templates, such as you did with {{recent}}. In the first place, there is a standard design to these on this wiki. And in the second, we're gradually phasing these out, as they do not work well on Wikia's various mobile platforms. Thanks! :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  05:18: Fri 12 Sep 2014