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::::::So are you okay with placing this story before ''Pirates'' or should it stay where it is now? (I'm really sorry that I misunderstood "wearing it for reasons", to me it seemed like you were being lazy, when in actuality you were quoting the story)-- [[User:TheChampionOfTime|TheChampionOfTime]] ([[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|talk page]]) 23:06, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
::::::So are you okay with placing this story before ''Pirates'' or should it stay where it is now? (I'm really sorry that I misunderstood "wearing it for reasons", to me it seemed like you were being lazy, when in actuality you were quoting the story)-- [[User:TheChampionOfTime|TheChampionOfTime]] ([[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|talk page]]) 23:06, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Pre-Doctor Who and the Pirates should be fine. [[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:08, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

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Thomas Brewster Trilogy placement

Recently me and Fwhiffahder have disagreed upon the placement of The Crimes of Thomas Brewster, Feast of Axos, and Industrial Evolution. These stories are a trilogy featuring Evelyn Smythe and Thomas Brewster. At the beginning of Crimes the Doctor uses his colourful coat to stun an alien with sensitive eyes. My interpretation of the sixth Doctor's timeline is that he wears only his blue coat between Real Time and The Wrong Doctors, he began wearing it to show that he was a new man, but gradually stopped wearing it when it became associated with painful memories (Thicker Than Water). Placing it before Real Time also connects it with the theme of Evelyn becoming distressed at the deaths of young people (she believes Brewster to be dead at the end of Evolution). Fwhiffahder places it at the end of their travels "for reasons". Both Me and him/her are so set in our ways that I think we need someone else to give their two cents. Please comment where you think these stories are so we can decide. :)-- TheChampionOfTime (talk page) 18:57, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Apologies if this is the wrong way to add to talk pages. I actually only made one edit to that page. I saw your edit and figured that since your reasoning (rainbow=pre-Real Time) was wrong, the edit must be wrong. I don't have any opinion on your assessment of his character, but the coloring isn't so cut-and-dry. He first wears blue in Real Time, and says he'll "wear [the colourful coat] again for you" in The Wrong Doctors, but he also wears blue in Jago & Litefoot and with Charley, and he's deliberately switched back to the colourful one temporarily in The Crimes of Thomas Brewster. So blue is already standard in The Crimes of Thomas Brewster, and he doesn't exclusively wear rainbow after The Wrong Doctors.Fwhiffahder 22:04, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry if this is obvious to you, but why does it have to be at the end of their travels? Based on the fact that he has hundreds of rainbow coats in his wardrobe and there is no mention of his blue outfit it makes most logical sense for this to be before he has had a blue coat. (I didn't say he never wore the blue coat after Evelyn, just that he gradually stopped wearing it, but that doesn't matter) -- TheChampionOfTime (talk page) 22:19, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
I just checked the story and Evelyn's comment could have meant that there's a reason he wears it in general, instead of in that story in particular. So your position works.Fwhiffahder 22:31, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
Although he is wearing a blue coat on the cover...
...But I'm pretty sure this generally accepted as a mistake (like Spaceport Feare). Sorry for the kerfuffle. -- TheChampionOfTime (talk page) 22:36, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, the cover isn't really indicative. The cover for The Revolution uses the White Darkness outfit when the story specifically mentions the "amusing pullover."Fwhiffahder 22:47, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
So are you okay with placing this story before Pirates or should it stay where it is now? (I'm really sorry that I misunderstood "wearing it for reasons", to me it seemed like you were being lazy, when in actuality you were quoting the story)-- TheChampionOfTime (talk page) 23:06, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
Pre-Doctor Who and the Pirates should be fine. Fwhiffahder 23:08, December 9, 2015 (UTC)