Talk:Gallifreyan physiology

Shock

Removed, due to suspect citation to Smith and Jones. Feel free to add anything back which Cat's Cradle: Witch Mark directly says anything about blood vessels.

Even in hypovolemic shock, with a significant amount of blood removed from the cardiovascular system, a Gallifreyan could still compensate and survive. Part of compensating for circulatory shock is by blood vessel constriction, and Gallifreyans could control their blood vessels, dilating and contracting them at will. (TV: Smith and Jones, PROSE: Cat's Cradle: Witch Mark)

I think for one thing, before Martha revived him, the Doctor didn't compensate. He was registered deceased and considered a closed case according to the Judoon's instruments, so I'm not sure what, if any, of this comes from Smith and Jones apart from "the Doctor was able to have been revived after his blood was lost". -- Tybort (talk page) 17:55, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Proprioception

Is this term used in AUDIO: The Forever Trap? If not, then it needs to be renamed; if it is, then it should be redlinked so we can have our own article on the subject. Shambala108 ☎ 15:08, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Allergy to Praxis gases

I've not seen The Caves of Androzani, but as far as I can tell, the Fifth Doctor only says that eating the celery (which changes colour in contact with these gases) is good for his teeth, rather than counteracting any reaction. -- Tybort (talk page) 11:59, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

You're correct, according to the story, he's allergic to certain gases, and the celery is what alerts him to the presence of the gases. The Caves of Androzani says nothing about counteracting the allergies. Shambala108 ☎ 14:14, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Skin properties and mind control

Could any of these references be added? They DO reference Timelord skin and biochemistry.

In Journey to the center of the TARDIS" The Doctor's skin was not affected by the heat of the magnetic bomb that gave Clara's skin a first-degree burn. Rose mentioned in "The Doctor Dances": "Cuts himself shaving, does half an hour on life forms he's cleverer than". In "State of Decay" Romana II is easily cut by a simple shard of crystal glass. This means that a) timelord beards can be cut with a razor b) Timelord skin can be cut with a razor c) timelord skin can be easily cut with any sharp surface. In several other episodes, we see the Doctor reacting to hot items as if in pain. But in "The armageddon factor", as the fourth Doctor comes out of a blast furnace, not even his coat is singed and he says "A little trick I picked up from the firewalkers of Bali". This seems to indicate that timelords may have control over their reaction to heat. Also in "The Armageddon Factor" Drax says he had no choice but to obey "the shadow" or he would have used his mind control black cube on Drax anyway. However, when the same cube is put on the Doctor, he simply pulls it off. It doesn't work on Romana I either. Apparently, this skill is learned and since Drax failed the Academy, he never learned how to control his biochemistry. DRAX: Yeah, I was all right at practical, remember? DOCTOR: Yeah. DRAX: Temporal theory did me. Still, you did well, mind, getting your doctorate and all that. DOCTOR: What happened to you? DRAX: I failed, didn't I. Still, not to worry. I was doing all right till this lot. I went into repair and maintenance. Schrammbo1965 ☎ 23:11, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Allergy to fixed points

Since there are three of us, let's talk here. Yes, he is called that literally. But I have no idea what that means. Look at the description of Fixed point in time: "moments in the space-time continuum at which events were set in stone and could never, ever be changed, no matter what, with dire consequences if such a thing happened". How can a time traveller who is all over the space-time continuum be fixed in time. I can understand how Adelaide Brooke or her death can be a fixed point: her life is linear in time. But Jack?

There is a second problem though. I don't remember any other example of a Time Lord having a problem with fixed points. Doctor didn't have any aversion to Brooke. Nor did his TARDIS. He visited Pompeii, had no problem. The Eleventh Doctor showed absolutely no signs of physical discomfort at Lake Silencio. Disclaimer: it's been awhile since I watched Utopia, but my memory and my understanding of what happened was completely different. It was not a problem that Jack was a "fixed point", whatever that means in his case. The problem was that he was wrong, unnatural. Everything in the world comes to an end, but he was immortal, and this was what spooked the Doctor and the TARDIS. I feel like the current edit is jumping to conclusions. Was there an explicit causal link made between the fixed-pointedness and the TARDIS behaviour? Amorkuz ☎ 18:56, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

i mean it might be just a sensitivity to events and when it comes to people they might cause the "allergy" sort of like people are meant to die so to speak – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soliy1 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 6 April 2017‎.

First things first. Let's get the full quote:

10: That's why I left you behind. It's not easy, even just looking at you, Jack, 'cause you're wrong.
JH: Thanks.
10: You are. I can't help it. I'm a Time Lord. It's instinct. It's in my guts. You're a fixed point in time and space. You're a fact. That's never meant to happen. Even the TARDIS reacted against you, tried to shake you off. Flew all the way to the end of the universe just to get rid of you.
JH: So what you're saying is you're prejudiced?
10: I never thought of it like that.
JH: Shame on you.
...
10: [Rose] brought you back to life. But she couldn't control it. She brought you back forever. ...The Doctor explains how he feels about Jack's immortality.

Amorkuz ☎ 21:06, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, several things. First, apparently, Jack is not a "fixed point in time" but a "fixed point in time and space". Is there a difference? I would argue that there is. Because Jack never should have happened, according to the Tenth Doctor, whereas multiple other fixed point in time are all around and no one bats an eye. Apparently, there is one involving a mammoth that happened naturally and is shown in the Time Lord Academy. Jack is described as a unique fixed point in time and space on the fixed point page. The Doctor has a problem with him and him alone. There is no indication that it extends to fixed points in time only. On top of that, Jack suggests that it's just prejudice talking. And the Doctor does not disagree, which would suggest a different reading of the word "gut". It's more like Bush's gut telling him something, not like a physical sickness in the intestines. Amorkuz ☎ 21:24, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

it could that he reacts to similar fixed points Like pompeii – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soliy1 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 6 April 2017‎.

Hey, I was just listening to Sword of Orion (for CyberReasons) when I was reminded of this conversation. In it, Vortisaurs are shown to have an allergic reaction to "wrong" fixed points in time. I'd say this suggests most time-sensitive species are allergic to these sorts of things, but the Doctor is unaffected. Just something that might be useful. CoT ? 20:20, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Huh, this is becoming interesting. Was it Charley? I sincerely believed that Jack was unique. But where there are two, there could be more. What is the best way to find more examples? People are not likely to find this talk page. Why don't I post this question on reference deck? Amorkuz ☎ 20:50, April 7, 2017 (UTC)