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 :::::Anyway, I think [[Talk:Jack_Harkness#1927_Flashbacks_in_.22Immortal_Sins.22.3F|Talk:Jack_Harkness]] lists all of the possibilities (except for the "one part of timeline before Angelo went to prison, a later part afterward) and all of the serious problems with each one, and anything anyone has to add should probably go there rather than here, so it can be used to improve the article.
+::That is just a way of describing his condition; he can't be erased, and he defies time by never letting it kill him. That's not the mystery Jack didn't know before talking to the Doctor; he could have told you that himself, especially having as much knowledge as he does about time travel and such. What Jack didn't know was HOW he came to be this way. That's what he asks the Doctor in Utopia - not to elaborate on what he is, but to explain what happened to make him that way. That's the only question he asks regarding that in Utopia; he is not phased by the Doctor's calling him a fixed point. So I guess the only real mystery is how he happened to use the same exact words, as if he was quoting the Doctor, but that can just be chalked up to coincidence, or perhaps it is a common expression in temporal talk. --[[User:Game-fanatic|Game-fanatic]] [[User talk:Game-fanatic|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:02, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
 *Jack says that he hasn't been to a confession in 700 years. Jack wasn't nearly that old until he was buried.
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 :::Really wish I had the time to check, but in the flashback scenes in series 1 & 2, those that pre-date 1940, did all of them have him in something other than the USAAF overcoat?
 ::::He had a similarly long coat in ''Fragments'', but it wasn't the WWII coat. In ''Small Worlds'' he was wearing the same uniform as everyone else on the train.
-:::::Jack's coat is what we think of as a World War II era Royal Air Force greatcoat. However, the RAF existed before WWII (it was founded in 1918), and I think their greatcoats did, too. I found a portrait of Hugh Trenchard, RAF Marshal and "Father of the Royal Air Force," online (at http://www.gac.culture.gov.uk/work.aspx?obj=16156 ) that is a COPY commissioned in 1959 of an ORIGINAL from 1930. Notice his coat in that portrait looks very similar to Jack's. So, if Trenchard had a coat like that in 1930, I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibility for Jack to be wearing his greatcoat in 1927-1928. --[[User:Game-fanatic|Game-fanatic]] [[User talk:Game-fanatic|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
+::Jack's coat is what we think of as a World War II era Royal Air Force greatcoat. However, the RAF existed before WWII (it was founded in 1918), and I think their greatcoats did, too. I found a portrait of Hugh Trenchard, RAF Marshal and "Father of the Royal Air Force," online (at http://www.gac.culture.gov.uk/work.aspx?obj=16156 ) that is a COPY commissioned in 1959 of an ORIGINAL from 1930. Notice his coat in that portrait looks very similar to Jack's. So, if Trenchard had a coat like that in 1930, I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibility for Jack to be wearing his greatcoat in 1927-1928. --[[User:Game-fanatic|Game-fanatic]] [[User talk:Game-fanatic|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
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