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: I take it back. The explanation was on the page: a different first name was used in another valid story. However, this is still not a speedy rename. There are various policies that might or might not have bearing on the case. [[Tardis:Character names]] dictates to use the first and last name. It also suggests to use the names most commonly used (the exact wording applies to last names only but the intent is clear). Here, it seems that one story calls him John and the other calls him Henry. Not knowing exactly how close the relationship between the two characters is, it's hard to pick a position. For me, the best solution would be to make two pages, given that they exist in different timelines and are called differently. But I'll leave this move to be done by an admin who read both stories. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
: I take it back. The explanation was on the page: a different first name was used in another valid story. However, this is still not a speedy rename. There are various policies that might or might not have bearing on the case. [[Tardis:Character names]] dictates to use the first and last name. It also suggests to use the names most commonly used (the exact wording applies to last names only but the intent is clear). Here, it seems that one story calls him John and the other calls him Henry. Not knowing exactly how close the relationship between the two characters is, it's hard to pick a position. For me, the best solution would be to make two pages, given that they exist in different timelines and are called differently. But I'll leave this move to be done by an admin who read both stories. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:10, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
'Fellowship of the Ink' appears to be largely considered, at least by readers, as part of the Brenda-and-Effie series, in which Prof. Cleavis's name is Henry and its his brother is called John (see Magrs's 'Something Borrowed', 2007). One wonders whether there is sufficient justification for including 'Fellowship' on this wikia? Brenda is included because she appears in a BF audio, but the rest of the books about her are not.[[Special:Contributions/86.150.248.55|86.150.248.55]]<sup>[[User talk:86.150.248.55#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:41, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

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Why not John?

In Mad Dogs and Englishmen, William Freer calls him "John Cleavis" and his brother Fred calls him "John" several times. Is John later revealed to be a fake name? Amorkuz 21:11, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

I take it back. The explanation was on the page: a different first name was used in another valid story. However, this is still not a speedy rename. There are various policies that might or might not have bearing on the case. Tardis:Character names dictates to use the first and last name. It also suggests to use the names most commonly used (the exact wording applies to last names only but the intent is clear). Here, it seems that one story calls him John and the other calls him Henry. Not knowing exactly how close the relationship between the two characters is, it's hard to pick a position. For me, the best solution would be to make two pages, given that they exist in different timelines and are called differently. But I'll leave this move to be done by an admin who read both stories. Amorkuz 22:10, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

'Fellowship of the Ink' appears to be largely considered, at least by readers, as part of the Brenda-and-Effie series, in which Prof. Cleavis's name is Henry and its his brother is called John (see Magrs's 'Something Borrowed', 2007). One wonders whether there is sufficient justification for including 'Fellowship' on this wikia? Brenda is included because she appears in a BF audio, but the rest of the books about her are not.86.150.248.55talk to me 16:41, September 14, 2018 (UTC)