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(the point of policies is their universality. Many people would search for Captain Harkness, so what?)
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:: If [[T:HONOR]] says that [[Miss Marple]] and [[Doctor Strange]] need to be renamed, that sounds like a problem with [[T:HONOR]], not those page titles. Absolutely no one is going to wonder "Has Doctor Strange ever been mentioned in Doctor Who?", hop online, and search for "Strange (fictional character)". These page renames are actively eroding this website's usefulness as an encyclopedia. – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 17:26, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
:: If [[T:HONOR]] says that [[Miss Marple]] and [[Doctor Strange]] need to be renamed, that sounds like a problem with [[T:HONOR]], not those page titles. Absolutely no one is going to wonder "Has Doctor Strange ever been mentioned in Doctor Who?", hop online, and search for "Strange (fictional character)". These page renames are actively eroding this website's usefulness as an encyclopedia. – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 17:26, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
::: Fortunately for [[T:HONOUR]], there are pages [[Miss Marple (series)]] and [[Doctor Strange (film)]] that should have {{tlx|you may}} to the character pages for those users who are not familiar with our policies. There are plenty of DWU characters that are almost universally referred to with some kind of honourifics, [[Sergeant Benton]] comes to mind. There are characters that are only referred to once or twice, and with an honourific,. It is, in fact, better to apply the rule uniformly than to make readers guess how deep into the DWU a given character embedded, and whether it was featured in the [[Land of Fiction]], etc., to determine whether T:HONOUR applies or not. It's not like anyone would mistake Miss for a first name. I would be more careful with [[Little Lord Fauntleroy]] because that is not a standard honourific, but Miss, Doctor, Captain, etc. are stripped for everyone. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:01, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

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SOTO is right that the first name is not used in the references I've seen. Chances are it was never mentioned (or it could have been: such small references often go unrecorded). However, it is absolutely clear which character is meant. In a similar prior case, the first name of a real-world reference was used as the best way of disambiguating, despite not being mentioned in the DWU. While strictly speaking, it is not necessary to disambiguate Marple at the moment, I added the first name as future proofing. Amorkuz 22:57, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

UPD: I was not able to find the mention of "Jane" in TV stories mentioned on the page. Amorkuz 21:57, August 14, 2016 (UTC)
I don't see any need for a rename. This is not a character in the DWU, this is a fictional character in the DWU. Shambala108 13:44, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
T:HONOR, in its current formulation, does not distinguish between types of characters or, indeed, types of pages. The exact quote is: "Honourifics are titles that come before a name, such as Mr, Mrs, Dr, Professor, religious ranks, or military ranks. These should generally not be included in article titles, unless they provide the only reasonable means of disambiguation." Amorkuz 14:26, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
If T:HONOR says that Miss Marple and Doctor Strange need to be renamed, that sounds like a problem with T:HONOR, not those page titles. Absolutely no one is going to wonder "Has Doctor Strange ever been mentioned in Doctor Who?", hop online, and search for "Strange (fictional character)". These page renames are actively eroding this website's usefulness as an encyclopedia. – N8 17:26, November 7, 2017 (UTC)
Fortunately for T:HONOUR, there are pages Miss Marple (series) and Doctor Strange (film) that should have {{you may}} to the character pages for those users who are not familiar with our policies. There are plenty of DWU characters that are almost universally referred to with some kind of honourifics, Sergeant Benton comes to mind. There are characters that are only referred to once or twice, and with an honourific,. It is, in fact, better to apply the rule uniformly than to make readers guess how deep into the DWU a given character embedded, and whether it was featured in the Land of Fiction, etc., to determine whether T:HONOUR applies or not. It's not like anyone would mistake Miss for a first name. I would be more careful with Little Lord Fauntleroy because that is not a standard honourific, but Miss, Doctor, Captain, etc. are stripped for everyone. Amorkuz 18:01, November 7, 2017 (UTC)