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:And here's the thing, in a sci-fi universe like ''Doctor Who'', the mind's the thing, so to speak. If everything the One does as a disembodied mind trapped inside the Eleven is to be confined to "Legacy" and not counted as an appearance, then [[River Song]] doesn't appear in ''[[The Name of the Doctor (TV story)|The Name of the Doctor]]'', because she had lost her body by that point and was just a ghost manifesting through a psychic link with Clara. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:12, October 1, 2019 (UTC) | :And here's the thing, in a sci-fi universe like ''Doctor Who'', the mind's the thing, so to speak. If everything the One does as a disembodied mind trapped inside the Eleven is to be confined to "Legacy" and not counted as an appearance, then [[River Song]] doesn't appear in ''[[The Name of the Doctor (TV story)|The Name of the Doctor]]'', because she had lost her body by that point and was just a ghost manifesting through a psychic link with Clara. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:12, October 1, 2019 (UTC) | ||
::That's the thing, imo: the "voice inside the head" ''is'' effectively the person. They maintain personality, voice mannerisms and all else that made them a person. I see this as an almost equivalent of [[Bill Potts]] in ''[[Twice Upon a Time (TV story)|Twice Upon a Time]]'': we could argue back and forth that Bill doesn't appear in that story, but that is Bill, as "These are my memories, so this is me". For The Eleven, we actually see the Eight becoming a "voice inside" the Nine's head, and it's quite difficult to argue that it's not the Eight we are hearing. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:21, October 1, 2019 (UTC) | |||
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DAB change and appearances
Do we really want to count every time the One (and later incarnations) speak through their future incarnations as an "appearance"? In my opinion, when a previous incarnation manifests, it should be covered in legacy, otherwise we'll get an excessively long list of appearances, which diminishes towards later incarnations.
What the appearances list should really be doing is telling the reader when that incarnation appeared, not every time they manifest. Danochy ☎ 09:53, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
- Hard disagree.
- If it were really just insanity and the past incarnations weren't "really" talking inside the current one's mind, Legacy would be appropriate; but apparently the minds of the past incarnations really do linger.
- And here's the thing, in a sci-fi universe like Doctor Who, the mind's the thing, so to speak. If everything the One does as a disembodied mind trapped inside the Eleven is to be confined to "Legacy" and not counted as an appearance, then River Song doesn't appear in The Name of the Doctor, because she had lost her body by that point and was just a ghost manifesting through a psychic link with Clara. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:12, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
- That's the thing, imo: the "voice inside the head" is effectively the person. They maintain personality, voice mannerisms and all else that made them a person. I see this as an almost equivalent of Bill Potts in Twice Upon a Time: we could argue back and forth that Bill doesn't appear in that story, but that is Bill, as "These are my memories, so this is me". For The Eleven, we actually see the Eight becoming a "voice inside" the Nine's head, and it's quite difficult to argue that it's not the Eight we are hearing. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 11:21, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
