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Both pages, [[the Master]] and [[O (Spyfall)]], have been locked for editing until the [[T:OFF REL|bottom of the hour]] after broadcast ends on part two. Until then, as {{tlx|current}} explains, we must be careful in our coverage. As regards this character, who himself proclaims that all we think we know is (or might be, here) wrong, we should practice even more caution. | Both pages, [[the Master]] and [[O (Spyfall)]], have been locked for editing until the [[T:OFF REL|bottom of the hour]] after broadcast ends on part two. Until then, as {{tlx|current}} explains, we must be careful in our coverage. As regards this character, who himself proclaims that all we think we know is (or might be, here) wrong, we should practice even more caution. | ||
By any common reading, the cliffhanger to ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]'' suggested we would be getting a new Doctor in the coming story, but next week's ''[[Journey's End (TV story)|Journey's End]]'' subverted this within seconds, really. Hell, the "big reveal" that led right into the credits of ''[[Death in Heaven (TV story)|Death in Heaven]]'' would have had us believe that Clara was the Doctor all along. By their very nature, cliffhanger reveals are often unreliable. Now this is a story already involving espionage | By any common reading, the cliffhanger to ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]'' suggested we would be getting a new Doctor in the coming story, but next week's ''[[Journey's End (TV story)|Journey's End]]'' subverted this within seconds, really. Hell, the "big reveal" that led right into the credits of ''[[Death in Heaven (TV story)|Death in Heaven]]'' would have had us believe that Clara was the Doctor all along. By their very nature, cliffhanger reveals are, more often than not, unreliable. Now ''this'' is a story already involving espionage, false identities. Not to mention our alien threat, which still reeks of the unknown. Our main characters even begin to uncover a plot which the Doctor believes might have something to do with "multiple Earths". We won't know what's going on, fully, until all is revealed. | ||
So out of an abundance of caution, until ''Part Two'' provides more context, we must stick to the facts and take care not to make any claims, however obvious they might seem, that might reasonably be doubted. | So out of an abundance of caution, until ''Part Two'' provides more context, we must stick to the facts and take care not to make any claims, however obvious they might seem, that might reasonably be doubted. | ||
Both pages I linked to above make use of language like "according to X character", "X person told the Doctor", and "a man who claimed to be Y" rather than trusting — just yet — that they are who they say they are. In the coming days, we stick to this approach. There might be any number of things going on, behind layers of subterfuge, but it's not for us to editorialise. So until this story is released in its entirety, we must hold off on making any big proclamations, and say only ''exactly'' as much as the text allows. This applies to all pages. We'll pick this up when ''Part Two'' arrives.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 03:32, January 2, 2020 (UTC) | Both pages I linked to above make use of language like "according to X character", "X person told the Doctor", and "a man who claimed to be Y" rather than trusting — just yet — that they are who they say they are. In the coming days, we stick to this approach. There might be any number of things going on, behind layers of subterfuge, but it's not for us to editorialise. So until this story is released in its entirety, we must hold off on making any big proclamations, and say only ''exactly'' as much as the text allows. This applies to all pages. We'll pick this up when ''Part Two'' arrives.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 03:32, January 2, 2020 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 03:39, 2 January 2020
The Master
I am excited for the return of the Master but as per the instructions in {{current}}, shouldn't we be cautious about O's actual identity since the revelation happened in the cliffhanger? We only have to wait four days to confirm this so I wonder if it would be worth the effort to wait especially given the huge number of edits the introduction of a new Master causes. --Borisashton ☎ 20:39, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
- It's worth noting he is credited as "O" rather than the Master. --Borisashton ☎ 20:58, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
- I agree, while I'm pretty sure he is credited as "O" simply to keep the reveal a surprise, considering there are reasonable doubts, and that it is after all a short wait to get more information, I think being cautious is a good idea. Better be safe than sorry after all, and once we have the full two parter, it should be easier to do all the edits that need to be done with a new incarnation. Liria10 ☎ 21:34, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
Both pages, the Master and O (Spyfall), have been locked for editing until the bottom of the hour after broadcast ends on part two. Until then, as {{current}} explains, we must be careful in our coverage. As regards this character, who himself proclaims that all we think we know is (or might be, here) wrong, we should practice even more caution.
By any common reading, the cliffhanger to The Stolen Earth suggested we would be getting a new Doctor in the coming story, but next week's Journey's End subverted this within seconds, really. Hell, the "big reveal" that led right into the credits of Death in Heaven would have had us believe that Clara was the Doctor all along. By their very nature, cliffhanger reveals are, more often than not, unreliable. Now this is a story already involving espionage, false identities. Not to mention our alien threat, which still reeks of the unknown. Our main characters even begin to uncover a plot which the Doctor believes might have something to do with "multiple Earths". We won't know what's going on, fully, until all is revealed.
So out of an abundance of caution, until Part Two provides more context, we must stick to the facts and take care not to make any claims, however obvious they might seem, that might reasonably be doubted.
Both pages I linked to above make use of language like "according to X character", "X person told the Doctor", and "a man who claimed to be Y" rather than trusting — just yet — that they are who they say they are. In the coming days, we stick to this approach. There might be any number of things going on, behind layers of subterfuge, but it's not for us to editorialise. So until this story is released in its entirety, we must hold off on making any big proclamations, and say only exactly as much as the text allows. This applies to all pages. We'll pick this up when Part Two arrives.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 03:32, January 2, 2020 (UTC)
