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Revision as of 13:48, 2 November 2022
Novelisation character names
This is a list of pages that could be renamed under the policy change I suggested in Thread:231243. By no means is it complete!
- Abigail (The Crimson Horror) to Abigail Blench
- Abigail's friend (The Crimson Horror) to Sissy Roper
- Barclay (The Tenth Planet) to Tom Barclay
- Bates (Attack of the Cybermen) to Eregous Bates
- Bruce (Doctor Who) to Bruce Gerhardt
- Captain (The Rescue) to Smith (The Rescue)
- Caretaker (Scream of the Shalka) to Mitch Stannard
- Cashier (Warriors of Kudlak) to Pam (Warriors of Kudlak)
- Chamberlain (The Twin Dilemma) to Slarn (The Twin Dilemma)
- Clark (The Sea Devils) to Alan Clark
- Collins (Pyramids of Mars) to Josiah Collins
- Co-pilot (The Horns of Nimon) to Sardor
- Court Historian (The Choice) to Grode'Corm
- Crewmember (Resurrection of the Daleks) to Baz Seaton
- Curly (The Enemy of the World) to Tibor
- Curtis (Doctor Who) to Shelly Curtis
- Detective-Inspector (The Daleks' Master Plan) to Windsor (The Daleks' Master Plan)
- Digby (Black Orchid) to Raymond Digby
- Edmund (The Crimson Horror) to Edmund Thursday
- Effie (The Crimson Horror) to Effie Thursday
- Female art lover (City of Death) to Elena (City of Death)
- First policeman (The Daleks' Master Plan) to Welland
- Forester (Planet of Giants) to Mark Forester
- Fortune teller (Snakedance) to Zara (Snakedance)
- Gareth (Doctor Who) to Gareth Fitzpatrick
- Heath (The Sontaran Experiment) to Warra
- Interviewer (The Daleks' Master Plan) to Jim Grant
- Jim (The Dæmons) to Josh Wilkins
- Joe (Scream of the Shalka) to Joe Latham
- Lavel to Françoise Lavel
- Louvre guide to Henriette (City of Death)
- Mackenzie (Ghost Light) to Alfred Mackenzie
- Male art lover (City of Death) to Harrison Mandel
- Matron (Mawdryn Undead) to Cassidy
- Miranda (Doctor Who) to Miranda Gerhardt
- Mitchell (The Sea Devils) to Tony Mitchell (The Sea Devils)
- Morok commander to Ogrek
- Morok guard 2 to Pluton
- Munro (Terror of the Zygons) to Jock Munro
- One (The Ark) to One XVII
- Parisian artist to Bourget
- Perkins (Fury from the Deep) to Ronald Perkins
- Pete (Doctor Who) to Pete Callahan
- Pilot (The Horns of Nimon) to Sekkoth
- Policeman 1 (Logopolis) to Donald Seagrave
- Presidential bodyguard (The Invasion of Time) to Varn
- Price (Fury from the Deep) to David Price
- Registrar (The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith) to Sandra Cho
- Roberts (Doctor Who and the Silurians) to George Roberts
- Second policeman (The Daleks' Master Plan) to Blessed
- Sergeant (The Highlanders) to Klegg
- Shrinking Guardian to Niash
- Simmons (Dalek) to Danny Simmons
- Station sergeant to Ellis (The Daleks' Master Plan)
- Steward (Slipback) to Velsper
- The Squire (The Visitation) to John (The Visitation)
- Ted (Doctor Who) to Ted Kriechel
- Teresa (The Talons of Weng-Chiang) to Teresa Hart
- Thursday (The Crimson Horror) to Jonas Thursday
The above grouping only includes characters whose names are currently not unique on the wiki. Characters whose names were already unique are listed below; the issue of whether the longer titles should be used regardless as "[[Tardis:Characters with one name#future proofing|]]" is probably best decided case-by-case, as described in the policy about when not to disambiguate.
- Abbott to Tom Abbott
- Carney to Mick Carney
- Fedorin to Nicholas Fedorin
- Griffiths to Charles Griffiths
- Katz to Katz Makrif
- Kebek to Caladru Kebek
- Ollis to Mary Hollis
- Ridgeway to Robin Ridgeway
- Robbins to Thomas Robbins
- Salinger to Jim Salinger
- Swift to Roger Swift
- Van Lutyens to Pieter Van Lutyens
- Wagg to Joseph Wagg
- Wheeler to Angela Wheeler
- Wigner to Robert Wigner
- Zaroff to Hermann Zaroff
It's worth noting that there are already a ton of pages which use names from novelisations. An incomplete sample: Archie Sylvest; August Lilt; Cairn; Cass Fermazzi; Cedric (The King's Demons); Colin Redmayne; Derek Johnson; ECCO; Edith Randall; Fariah Neguib; Frank Harris; Fyodor Nikolai Kerensky; George Morris; Heidi Scarlioni; Jason Overton; Jebal; Joanna; Joshua Jobel; Justin Vogel; Lancelot Takis; Lee Lin; Mary Smith; Megara One; Megara Two; Odessa Smith; Owen Bywater; Owen Watson; Palmer; Ram Vermas; Robert Lines; Sakkib; Simon Metcalf; Smith; Sylvia Gribbins; Tasambeker Brown; Theodore Benik; Vincent Russell; Vorn; and Wilkins. Let them serve as not only demonstrations of the practicality of novelisation names being used more generally but also prompts for us to reconsider the current policy which forbids their existence!
Thinly-veiled characters
Doctors
- Cosmic Hobo (Second Doctor etc)
- El Jefe (Hartnell Doctor)
- Dr Oho (Cushing Doctor)
- Ninth Doctor 4 (The Tomorrow Windows) (Shalka Doctor)
- Grandfather Halfling (Relic Doctor)
- Lethean Campaign assassin (Relic Doctor)
- "Dr. Smith"
- The Evil Renegade
- The Professor (Republica) (alternative Seventh Doctor, sort of; but also Doctor Omega)
- Trickster God
- The President Kodachrome (Sixth Doctor)
- Doctor Moon (45th Doctor)
- Old man (42nd Doctor)
- Paul Bowman (Eighth Doctor)
- War veteran (Now or Thereabouts) (Eighth Doctor)
- Drunk man (Now or Thereabouts) (Shalka Doctor)
- Singing man (Now or Thereabouts) (Ninth Doctor)
- Rivera Manuscript renegade (Relic Doctor?)
- Shift (Head of State) (The Other?)
- The Gestalt (?!?)
Masters
- Magister1971
- The Magistrate (currently merged with the War King, but they should really be separate)
- Man with the Rosette
- Mestizer
- Pavo
- Stream (The Hollows of Time)
- The War King
Other DWU characters
- Ace (Republica) (alternative/temporally-altered Ace)
- Ashlyn (Clara splinter)
- Auteur (Astrolabus)
- Ceol (Kelsey Hooper)
- Companion (The Blue Angel) (Cedric (Search Out Space))
- The Corsair (The Corsair, but also the (public domain) Corsair Queen)
- Ganeida (The Doctor's sister)
- The Imperator (Morbius I)
- John Scanlon (First Monk)
- Lolita (The Master's first TARDIS)
- Mademoiselle Machine (Ace)
- Malakh Imperium (Malakh Empire)
- The Minister (Minister of Chance + Minister of War)
- Man with a bent nose (Minister of Chance)
- Maria (Now or Thereabouts) (Maria Jackson)
- Merlin's father (Ulysses)
- The Mistress (The Choice) (Romana II)
- The Monk (possibly the Monk, but also the (public domain) Monk)
- Nari (The Rani)
- Noble-woman (Donna Noble)
- Quandry (Cleavis)
- V. M. McCrimmon (Victoria Waterfield)
- Weapon (The Eyeless) (The Moment)
- Agent (Is anyone receiving these transmissions?) (Zoria)
Non-DWU characters
- Tara in Verdigris (Tara King)
- Claudia in Father Time (Claudia Marwood)
- Joseph Craator (Judge Dredd)
- The Professor (Doctor Omega)
- Cococyte (Doctor Omega)
- Pike-Xi Raul (Pike from Harry Potter)
- Victor (Viktor Krum)
- "Young Miss Watson" (Hermione Granger)
- Nosferatu (Dracula)
Gerry Anderson universe
- Main article: Talk:The Indestructible Man (novel)#Parallels
Blake's 7
- Kaston Iago (Kerr Avon)
- Butcher of Zircaster (Travis)
Alien
- Life-spore (Xenomorph (kind of))
- Narcissus (Nostromo)
- James Watt (Kane)
- Jennifer Alistoun (Ellen Ripley)
Valid references to not valid stories
An index of topics on this wiki which would be easier to cover using my subpage proposal and {{NCmaterial}}. Please feel free to add to this list!
Invalid stories
Not covered stories
Here I'm considering specifically licensed crossovers, not unofficial crossovers like the various appearances of Sherlock Holmes.
Realities
When it comes to continuity, tone, and worldview, the Doctor Who universe's many spin-offs and sub-series have usually been more concerned with themselves than each other. For instance, within a series such as The Monthly Adventures, one can expect to find more references to previous audios and the Classic show than the Virgin Decalogs or Doctor Who annuals. As a result, each series presents a relatively self-contained chunk of the Doctor's reality. Sometimes these pieces have ebbed and flowed into each other through shared characters or references; other times, they have gone out of their way to paint each other as separate timelines or universes.
While acknowleding that most sources suggest these chunks all to be the same reality, covering them separately helps to highlight the ways in which they stand on their own. TheChampionOfTime and MrThermomanPreacher have paved the way for this with the creation of pages like Virgin reality and The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child). I've contributed to MrThermomanPreacher's collaborative chart of these "reality" pages, both created and relinked, along with the approximate stories and series they cover.
- Main article: User:MrThermomanPreacher/Sandbox/Disputed realities
