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Novelisation character names
CzechOut ruled in Thread:232143#4 that for searchability reasons, we should not use information from novelisations in article titles. Since then, Fandom has updated the search bar so it will show you not only the page name you're typing but also what it redirects to! With the searchability issue therefore resolved, we should officially grant novelisations the same weight as other sources in page naming, particularly in cases where it would help disambiguation. Below is a list of pages that could be renamed with this change. By no means is it complete!
By my count, a majority of pages for characters whose names only appear in their novelisation already use those names: Tom Barclay, Eregous Bates, Theodore Benik, Bourget, Tasambeker Brown, Owen Bywater, Cairn, Pete Callahan, Mick Carney, Cedric (The King's Demons), Alan Clark, Josiah Collins, Shelly Curtis, Raymond Digby, ECCO, Eskon, Cass Fermazzi, Gareth Fitzpatrick, Mark Forester, Sylvia Gribbins, Charles Griffiths, Frank Harris, Mary Hollis, Jebal, Joanna (Doctor Who), Joshua Jobel, Derek Johnson, Fyodor Nikolai Kerensky, Klegg, Joe Latham, August Lilt, Lee Lin, Robert Lines, Katz Makrif, Megara One, Megara Two, Simon Metcalf, George Morris, Fariah Neguib, Jason Overton, Palmer (Terror of the Zygons), Pam (Warriors of Kudlak), Edith Randall, Colin Redmayne, Vincent Russell, Sakkib (Invasion of the Bane), Heidi Scarlioni, Danny Simmons, Smith (The Dinosaur Invasion), Mary Smith, Odessa Smith, Mitch Stannard, Archie Sylvest, Lancelot Takis, Edmund Thursday, Effie Thursday, Ram Vermas, Justin Vogel, Vorn (The Mutants), Owen Watson, Wilkins (The Dinosaur Invasion), and Robert Wigner. Let these serve as not only a demonstration of the practicality of novelisation names being used more generally but also a prompt for us to reconsider the current policy which forbids their existence!
Thinly-veiled characters
Doctors
- Cosmic Hobo (Second Doctor etc)
- El Jefe (Hartnell Doctor)
- Dr Oho (Cushing Doctor)
- Ninth Doctor 4 (The Tomorrow Windows) (Shalka Doctor)
- Grandfather Halfling (Relic Doctor)
- Lethean Campaign assassin (Relic Doctor)
- "Dr. Smith"
- The Evil Renegade
- The Professor (Republica) (alternative Seventh Doctor, sort of; but also Doctor Omega)
- Trickster God
- The President Kodachrome (Sixth Doctor)
- Doctor Moon (45th Doctor)
- Old man (42nd Doctor)
- Paul Bowman (Eighth Doctor)
- War veteran (Now or Thereabouts) (Eighth Doctor)
- Drunk man (Now or Thereabouts) (Shalka Doctor)
- Singing man (Now or Thereabouts) (Ninth Doctor)
- "John Polidori" (Eleventh Doctor)
- Rivera Manuscript renegade (Relic Doctor?)
- Shift (Head of State) (The Other?)
- The Gestalt (?!?)
Masters
- Magister1971
- The Magistrate (currently merged with the War King, but they should really be separate)
- Man with the Rosette
- Mestizer
- Pavo
- Stream (The Hollows of Time)
- The War King
Other DWU characters
- Alice (alternative/temporally-altered Ace)
- Ashlyn (Clara splinter)
- Auteur (Astrolabus)
- Ceol (Kelsey Hooper)
- Companion (The Blue Angel) (Cedric (Search Out Space))
- The Corsair (The Corsair, but also the public domain characters of "the Corsair, John Gallant" and "the Corsair Queen")
- The Gamemaster (The Toymaker?)
- Ganeida (The Doctor's sister)
- The Imperator (Morbius I)
- John Scanlon (First Monk)
- Lolita (The Master's first TARDIS)
- Mademoiselle Machine (Ace)
- Malakh Imperium (Malakh Empire)
- The Minister (Minister of Chance + Minister of War)
- Man with a bent nose (Minister of Chance)
- Maria (Now or Thereabouts) (Maria Jackson)
- Merlin's father (Ulysses)
- The Mistress (The Choice) (Romana II)
- The Monk (possibly the Monk, but also the public domain character "Monk")
- Nari (The Rani)
- Noble-woman (Donna Noble)
- Quandry (Cleavis)
- V. M. McCrimmon (Victoria Waterfield)
- Weapon (The Eyeless) (The Moment)
- Agent (Is anyone receiving these transmissions?) (Zoria)
Non-DWU characters
- Tara in Verdigris (Tara King)
- Claudia in Father Time (Claudia Marwood)
- Joseph Craator (Judge Dredd)
- The Professor (Doctor Omega)
- Cococyte (Doctor Omega)
- Pyke-Xi Raul (Pike from Harry Potter)
- Victor (Viktor Krum)
- "Young Miss Watson" (Hermione Granger)
- Nosferatu (Dracula)
Gerry Anderson universe
- Main article: Talk:The Indestructible Man (novel)#Parallels
Blake's 7
- Kaston Iago (Kerr Avon)
- Butcher of Zircaster (Travis)
Alien
- Life-spore (Xenomorph (kind of))
- Narcissus (Nostromo)
- James Watt (Kane)
- Jennifer Alistoun (Ellen Ripley)
Valid references to non-valid stories
An index of topics on this wiki which would be easier to cover using my subpage proposal and {{NCmaterial}}. Please feel free to add to this list!
Invalid stories
Not covered stories
Here I'm considering specifically licensed crossovers, not unofficial crossovers like the various appearances of Sherlock Holmes.
Realities
Every Doctor Who story gives us a new picture of the Doctor's reality. Technically speaking, we could create [[The Doctor's reality (Story Name)]] for every story on the wiki which features the Doctor. But the primary question I believe we should be asking in merge-related conversations is "Is it useful to our readers to have separate pages?" In most cases, there's no reason to doubt that a story depicts the same reality as its predecessor, whether that's the previous Virgin New Adventures novel, Monthly Adventures audio, or TV episode.
But there are several notable exceptions preventing us from merging everything into a single The Doctor's reality. When it comes to continuity, tone, and worldview, the Doctor Who universe's many spin-offs and sub-series have usually been more concerned with themselves than each other. For instance, within a series such as The Monthly Adventures, one can expect to find more references to previous audios and the Classic show than the Virgin Decalogs or Doctor Who annuals. As a result, a story's predecessor often simply isn't clear. Is the first Virgin New Adventures novel, Timewyrm: Genesys, best understood as a continuation of the prior TV episode, Survival, or the prior novel(isation), The Curse of Fenric?
The result of this thought process is a discrete number of relatively self-contained chunks of the Doctor's reality, roughly mapping onto the real-world series or sets of series. It's natural that this would be the most helpful to our readers. Sometimes these pieces have ebbed and flowed into each other through shared characters or references; other times, they have gone out of their way to paint each other as separate timelines or universes. While acknowleding that most sources indicate these chunks to be the same reality, covering them separately helps to highlight the ways in which they stand on their own. TheChampionOfTime and MrThermomanPreacher have paved the way for this with the creation of pages like Virgin reality and The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child). I've contributed to MrThermomanPreacher's collaborative chart of these "reality" pages.
This page is very much a work in progress. Feel free to add or edit. Suggestions or recommendations are welcome.
| Name | First Appearance | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| The Doctor's universe | TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) | The world of which all these realities are differing accounts or alternative versions. Per T:NPOV, each disputed reality has approximately equal claim to representing the "real" account of the Doctor's universe. |
| Original palimpsest universe | NOTVALID: The Pilot Episode (1963) | An overwritten reality and potentially the original version of history, suggested by the boy, in which the Doctor was a human who came from "some planet" in the 49th century. (PROSE: Unnatural History) |
| The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child) ("Hartnellverse") | TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) | The original "continuity" which begins in the very first episode with the First Doctor played by William Hartnell in Totter's Lane. Later developments establish his ability to regenerate, his disputed origin as a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey and the conflicting accounts of incarnations preceding the First Doctor. |
| John and Gillian's world | COMIC: The Klepton Parasites | Disputed TV Comic continuity in which "Dr. Who", based on the First Doctor (William Hartnell) then the Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton), travels with grandchildren John and Gillian. |
| Yarvelling's reality | COMIC: Genesis of Evil | Disputed TV Century 21 continuity in which the Daleks humanoid "forefathers" are the blue-skinned Daleks and the Dalek War Machines were created by Yarvelling. Most notably disputed by the introduction of Davros and the Kaleds in Genesis of the Daleks. Potential connections to both the Hartnellverse and the Cushingverse. |
| Dr. Who's reality (Dr. Who and the Daleks) ("Cushingverse") | TV: Dr. Who and the Daleks | The alternative continuity home to the human Dr. Who, played by Peter Cushing.[1] |
| The Doctor's reality (Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks) | PROSE: Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks | Disputed Target novelisation continuity in which the Doctor and Susan settled in Barnes Common, along with many other slight or major differences. |
| "Dalek timeline" | TV: Genesis of the Daleks (mentioned only) | A potential future in which the Daleks have exterminated all other life, motivating the Time Lords to prevent this from happening by enacting the Genesis Incident. |
| Genesis timeline | TV: Genesis of the Daleks | The disputed results of the Fourth Doctor's interference in the Daleks' early history. |
| 2-D universe | COMIC: The Iron Legion | The reality of the Doctor Who Magazine comic stories. |
| Virgin reality | PROSE: Timewyrm: Genesys | The reality of the Virgin Books New Adventures, Missing Adventures, and Decalogs. |
| Braxiatel Collection's revised timeline | The divergent continuity of Big Finish's Bernice Summerfield series, | |
| Barusa's universe | PROSE: The Chronicles of Doctor Who? | The universe of the Leekley Bible. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Eight Doctors) | PROSE: The Eight Doctors | The reality of the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures novels.[2] |
| Infinity Doctor's reality | PROSE: The Infinity Doctors (1998) | The unique state of reality home to the Infinity Doctor. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Curse of Fatal Death) | TV: The Curse of Fatal Death (1999) | The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor (Rowan Atkinson) and beyond. |
| Positive-time universe | The reality of Big Finish Productions' Monthly Adventures, including Eighth Doctor's travels with Charley Pollard. | |
| Reality (Auton) | TV: Auton | The reality of the Auton Trilogy. |
| The Doctor's reality (Scream of the Shalka) | NOTVALID: Scream of the Shalka (2003) | The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor as played by Richard E Grant. |
| Auld Mortality's universe | AUDIO: Auld Mortality | [3] |
| Cyberverse | TV: Real Time | A divergent continuity where Cybermen become dominant in the universe, depicted as an alternate reality in PROSE: Spiral Scratch. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Not-So-Sinister Sponge) | The reality of the "Special Occasions" stories in Short Trips and Side Steps, based on the Doctor Who annuals. | |
| Infected timeline (Interference) | PROSE: Interference et al. | The timeline established by the rewriting of the Third Doctor's death. |
| War Era universe | PROSE: Alien Bodies et al. | The War in Heaven. |
| Post-War universe | PROSE: The Burning et al. | The reality following the War in Heaven. One of several competing versions of the post-War universe is the Council of Eight's universe. |
| Pre-Time War universe | TV: An Unearthly Child[source needed] | The state of reality prior to the Last Great Time War, primarily seen in the "classic series" and spin-off works prior to the introduction of the "new series". |
| Time War timeline | The distinct, fluctuating state of reality during the Last Great Time War. Mostly sealed off from the normal universe by time lock. | |
| Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor) | A potential history in which Gallifrey was in fact destroyed at the end of the Time War before history was changed so that it survived in The Day of the Doctor (2013). May or may not be related to that seen in Doctor Who and the Time War. | |
| Post-Time War universe | TV: Rose (2005) | The state of reality in the "new series" in which the "Ninth Doctor" (Christopher Eccleston) follows the War Doctor, who himself followed the Eighth Doctor. Lasts at least up to the end of the Tenth Doctor's life (the RTD era). |
| Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour) | TV: The Eleventh Hour (2010) | The damaged universe seen throughout Series 5 (the Eleventh Doctor's first series). |
| Starless world | TV: The Big Bang (2010) | The last stage of the cracked universe before Big Bang Two. |
| Rebooted universe (The Big Bang) | TV: The Big Bang (2010) | The restored universe introduced in the Series 5 finale. Presumably the current state of reality at least as far as the television series is concerned. |
| Lethbridge-Stewart's universe (The Forgotten Son) | PROSE: The Forgotten Son | The alternate timeline setting of Candy Jar Books' Lethbridge-Stewart series. |
| Collapsing Universe | PROSE: Blood Heat Second Iteration | The setting of Jim Mortimore's "Director's Cut" novels. |
| Cutaway universe | COMIC: Down These Mean Streets A Man Must Go | Continuity of Cutaway Comics' Lytton. |
Footnotes
- ↑ Including not just the theatrical films but also The House on Oldark Moor.
- ↑ Divided into a countable number of epochs, including the Blonde Sam timeline, The Relic's timeline, and Infected timeline (Interference).
- ↑ Compare other Doctor Who Unbound universes, such as the Unbound Universe, Parallel universe (Deadline), and particularly Parallel universe (Full Fathom Five), which ties into the main-continuity 2040 timeline (The Nuclear Option) from Short Trips: 2040.
