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:::I'd disagree with changing the "mythology" dab in general, as it's really not pejorative or contentious in most cases, but there are probably better ways of referring to a lot of religious figures. Mary is a historical personage, for instance, and it's flatly incorrect to call her [[Mary (mythology)]] - most readers who see that name will be jarred by it. Wikipedia has her page at [[Mary, mother of Jesus]], which strikes me as ideal. [[User:PintlessMan|PintlessMan]] [[User talk:PintlessMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC) | :::I'd disagree with changing the "mythology" dab in general, as it's really not pejorative or contentious in most cases, but there are probably better ways of referring to a lot of religious figures. Mary is a historical personage, for instance, and it's flatly incorrect to call her [[Mary (mythology)]] - most readers who see that name will be jarred by it. Wikipedia has her page at [[Mary, mother of Jesus]], which strikes me as ideal. [[User:PintlessMan|PintlessMan]] [[User talk:PintlessMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::How is it incorrect? While it's largely the consensus that there's some form of "Historical Mary", ''even if this Historical Mary was completely identical to the one portrayed in the Bible it would still be part of mythology.'' The term "mythology" doesn't refer to tales that are inherently false. It refers to tales that fulfill a certain cultural role. Some of them may be false. Some may be true. It's completely irrelevant. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Article title is offensive
The article title is offensive and I request "mythology" in brackets be removed from it. 54.252.166.176talk to me 03:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't find it offensive, but I agree that the page should be moved. Wikipedia uses God for the monotheistic figure and Deity for gods in general, a much better solution which also avoids the need for disambiguation. "Mythology" isn't really accurate anyway, as God is also a philosophical concept, etc. PintlessMan ☎ 21:12, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, given that no DWU sources have come out and said that God belongs to the realm of mythology, this dab term is editorial at best and insensitive at worst. Mary (mythology) is a similar example. It probably wouldn't be hard to come up with a better dab to replace (mythology) on these pages as well as Zeus (mythology) et al. Maybe something as simple as (religion)? – n8 (☎) 21:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Wait, are we actually discussing this? These straightforwardly are instances of mythology. This is arguably a necessary component of them being part of a religious tradition - mythology has a real meaning that's not just pejorative. It's neither editorializing nor insensitive, it's true. Arguably it's overly technical, but, you know, look at where we are, and see our (still unresolved) discussion at Talk:Queer representation in Doctor Who. Najawin ☎ 02:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- No matter what dab term we use, I don't feel okay about certain gods being "exempt" from it, as I don't think it is within our right to say that one deity is "truer" than another. 02:37, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'd disagree with changing the "mythology" dab in general, as it's really not pejorative or contentious in most cases, but there are probably better ways of referring to a lot of religious figures. Mary is a historical personage, for instance, and it's flatly incorrect to call her Mary (mythology) - most readers who see that name will be jarred by it. Wikipedia has her page at Mary, mother of Jesus, which strikes me as ideal. PintlessMan ☎ 02:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- How is it incorrect? While it's largely the consensus that there's some form of "Historical Mary", even if this Historical Mary was completely identical to the one portrayed in the Bible it would still be part of mythology. The term "mythology" doesn't refer to tales that are inherently false. It refers to tales that fulfill a certain cultural role. Some of them may be false. Some may be true. It's completely irrelevant. Najawin ☎ 04:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
