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::::: I have found what I believe to be the closest comparison, [[DWM]]'s ''[[The Time of My Life (comic story)|The Time of My Life]]'' has the Doctor remembering multiple different adventures between himself an Donna. Each short segment has a different art style albeit no chapter heading. As I mentioned before Titan Comics seem to ''always'' put "The End" (or some alternate) at the end of their stories no matter how short. None of these "individual stories" received that treatment but the very end of the entire story did.[[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::::: I have found what I believe to be the closest comparison, [[DWM]]'s ''[[The Time of My Life (comic story)|The Time of My Life]]'' has the Doctor remembering multiple different adventures between himself an Donna. Each short segment has a different art style albeit no chapter heading. As I mentioned before Titan Comics seem to ''always'' put "The End" (or some alternate) at the end of their stories no matter how short. None of these "individual stories" received that treatment but the very end of the entire story did.[[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::I vehemently disagree with merging. The Many Lives of Doctor Who is a spiritual successor to ''[[Prisoners of Time]]''. This wiki decided the best way to cover POT was to give each issue a separate article, even though the story titles were referred to as chapters and were only established in collected editions. (See also our coverage of [[The Incomplete Death's Head]].) The most clear and convenient way to cover The Many Lives of Doctor Who is to give each vignette a separate article because they are all functionally separate comic stories.
::::::Furthermore, one synopsis reads (emphasis mine):[https://www.penguinrandomhouseretail.com/book/?isbn=9781785868726]
::::::{{Quote|An introduction to the brand new thirteenth Doctor, featuring '''multiple stories''' of previous incarnations of the Doctor.|}} [[User:LegoK9|LegoK9]] [[User talk:LegoK9|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


I disagree that the art styles between vignettes in that example differ, but, even if they did, they all have the same artist, so I don't feel that's a very close comparison at all, personally. [[User:Schreibenheimer|Schreibenheimer]] [[User talk:Schreibenheimer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
I disagree that the art styles between vignettes in that example differ, but, even if they did, they all have the same artist, so I don't feel that's a very close comparison at all, personally. [[User:Schreibenheimer|Schreibenheimer]] [[User talk:Schreibenheimer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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Significant merger

Despite receiving individual titles these stories were never intended to be individuals and were all part of the same narrative as The Many Lives of Doctor Who (comic story). DrWHOCorrieFan 22:14, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I realise my initial post was vague, I'll elaborate.
The Man Lives of Doctor Who is one single narrative which takes place during the 12th Doctor's regeneration into the 13th. Throughout the story the Doctor looks back into their past and revisits adventures where the central theme was change. These cutaways were all given individual titles; The Path of Skulls, Card Conundrum, etc, but were not individual stories.
It can be determined that this was a single narrative due to;
A) None of the stories finish with "The End" (which to my knowledge Titan Comics always does - or at least some variation - at the end of their stories) nor do they have "To be continued". This is literally one single narrative that plays out over multiple different adventures throughout the Doctors lives and the individual titles is no different than Doctor Who and the Iron Legion having The Iron Legion, Into the Dimension Duct, etc. They are chapter titles not individual story titles.
B) Each chapter has a continuous narration that speaks in the past tense directly to the Thirteenth Doctor.
C) The artists who designed individual chapters are not credited for having provided the art per story, instead they are credited per Doctor, which shows that this release was not thought of as being multiple individual stories.
I do not think that it would take anything away from the site by merging all these stories together. That is how they were clearly supposed to be intended. DrWHOCorrieFan 23:17, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Does anyone have anything to add on this subject? DrWHOCorrieFan 22:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I'll concede that it could easily go both ways, but my vote would be for keeping it as-is. The segments do all have separate titles and artists, and, aside from the linking narration, each segment is narratively distinct, with no narrative elements connecting the segments other than that they are what the Doctor is remembering while regenerating. In my mind, this seems more akin to the prose Short Trips that have linking stories rather than to a single story. Schreibenheimer 14:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree, although this is a tricky one and I'd be happy to hear more views. Scrooge MacDuck 23:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Who are you agreeing with @Scrooge? DrWHOCorrieFan 01:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
I have found what I believe to be the closest comparison, DWM's The Time of My Life has the Doctor remembering multiple different adventures between himself an Donna. Each short segment has a different art style albeit no chapter heading. As I mentioned before Titan Comics seem to always put "The End" (or some alternate) at the end of their stories no matter how short. None of these "individual stories" received that treatment but the very end of the entire story did.DrWHOCorrieFan 09:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I vehemently disagree with merging. The Many Lives of Doctor Who is a spiritual successor to Prisoners of Time. This wiki decided the best way to cover POT was to give each issue a separate article, even though the story titles were referred to as chapters and were only established in collected editions. (See also our coverage of The Incomplete Death's Head.) The most clear and convenient way to cover The Many Lives of Doctor Who is to give each vignette a separate article because they are all functionally separate comic stories.
Furthermore, one synopsis reads (emphasis mine):[1]

An introduction to the brand new thirteenth Doctor, featuring multiple stories of previous incarnations of the Doctor.

LegoK9 18:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

I disagree that the art styles between vignettes in that example differ, but, even if they did, they all have the same artist, so I don't feel that's a very close comparison at all, personally. Schreibenheimer 00:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

The art styles are intentionally different in that story (most notably in the classroom story with the Doctor/Donna presented in a more cartoon style). DrWHOCorrieFan 16:47, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm in favor of merging the pages for the reasons Corrie has given. – n8 () 16:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks.
Can I also point out that currently on The Many Lives of Doctor Who page the references section already includes the narrative-linking comments that occur in the "individual stories". For example; "* The Doctor recalls that, in his second incarnation, the Time Lords eventually caught up to him, (TV: The War Games) forced him to regenerate (COMIC: The Night Walkers) and stranded him on Earth. (TV: Spearhead from Space)" - this reference occurs in what would be Card Conundrum if they were counted individually. DrWHOCorrieFan 17:15, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I've added merge tags to the other stories which are part of The Many Lives of Doctor Who but didn't have the merge tag present. And I've placed a link to this discussion on all the merge tags for those stories just so anyone's clear where the merge discussion is taking place. --Tangerineduel / talk 04:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)