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Also, what does anyone think about the lack of ducks in the duck pond? It seemed to be vaguely important in The Eleventh Hour, and then it's referenced again in Flesh and Stone. Red herring, or something more sinister? [[Special:Contributions/159.92.57.11|159.92.57.11]] 09:49, May 6, 2010 (UTC) | Also, what does anyone think about the lack of ducks in the duck pond? It seemed to be vaguely important in The Eleventh Hour, and then it's referenced again in Flesh and Stone. Red herring, or something more sinister? [[Special:Contributions/159.92.57.11|159.92.57.11]] 09:49, May 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Rory is an interesting theory. My first thought was, they've already done that--Mickey the Idiot became a hero who Pete's World and then had to move to another dimension to find more saving to do. But then if someone described how Amy interacts with the Doctor as a companion (except for the end of Flesh and Stone), she'd sound an awful lot like Donna, and yet if you watch her she's nothing at all like Donna. So, I'm sure Moff could do the "Rory becomes a hero" without making it the Mickey story. | |||
:As for the duck pond, yeah, I think the line in Flesh and Stone implies that the ducks were erased from history, just like the Davros Daleks and the Victorian Cyberking. It's possible that this will be true but not all that important (the Silent Menace opens the Pandorica and starts throwing enemies pulled out of time at the Doctor--a Cyberking, an army of Daleks, some ducks, a Sontaran battle fleet...), but it doesn't seem likely that there's no connection at all. The Doctor missed things all the time--especially the 11th--but he rarely figures something out and then turns out to be completely wrong. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 13:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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This is my theory on to how the Series will span out... Since the Doctor shut the cracks up for a bit he needs to work out what's causing them, He thinks amy getting married has something to do with it so he runs away with amy and rory and takes them traveling for a bit until he works it out. He goes to Venice and meets vampires, then an entity called the Dream Lord somehow traps amy in a dream like trance making her think she's pregnant and she has to break out of the dream. Then the Doctor, amy an rory meet the silurians on 2015 then rory leaves. Th doctor and amy then meet vincent van gogh and help him fight off a yellow monster. Amy then gets taken away in the tardis and the doctor must stay on earth like a human until she catches up with him In time. Then the finale: the doctor and amy return to the day of amy's wedding day and meets River Song and battle the so called thing 'Pandorica'.
Overall this means that he meets River song for the first time in the finale which could possibly mean she is a human from amy's era and kill someone in the finale to be arrested. All this speculation about killing the doctor is still a little hazy because if she kills the doctor in the finale how can he be confirmed to be in series 6 and Christmas special?? And with the River saying in the library that her an the doctor travelled to the end of the universe will be in the finale with the doctor saying the cracks lead to the end of the universe.
Could the cybermen be re writing time with then being pulled into the time vortex (the next doctor) as they are going to be in the finale.
These are many of my theories of the series but what are yours???? -- Michael Downey 14:39, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
The thing that would be more than crappy is it it was all the doing of the Cybermen. Can't people be more original than that? We need to look at the bigger picture - they're nothing but one of the released enemies enemies in series 5. The Pandoirca is a fairytale, it is something ancient and lost, it seems. That's the real big bad. The leaked info for the finale refers to an ancient cliff-face and a puzzle box that opens from the inside, and it mentions some form of monatser that no one can stop or reason with, something that is the most feared thing ever. There is, without a doubt, some kind of ancient evil from beyond when behind it all. The finale has a few enemies released, but who is releasing them? Why is the crack following Amy, and what was the huge explosion? The crack itself seems to be an entity, and will undoubtly be be an enemy in the finale. Delton Menace 15:20, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Just because the Crack is following Amy doesn't mean that it's an intelligent entity. The Earth is attracted to the Sun without having to think about it, just because of gravity. Maybe the Crack is attracted to Amy because of... well, some natural phenomenon we don't know about yet, but presumably it would be related to her involvement in the history-ending explosion that happens at her wedding.
Of course it _might_ be an intelligent entity, or one might be somehow controlling it, but we don't know that yet, one way or the other.
As for completely-unfounded speculative theories, here's mine:
- The main enemy is the "Silent Menace", which will turn out to be some brand-new super-powerful threat that Moffat invented for this season.
- The SM finds and opens the Pandorica, as some kind of crazy plan vaguely reminiscent of the Discworld novel Hogfather.
- Opening the Pandorica causes all kinds of crazy side-effects.
- The Cybermen, Sontarans, etc. will only be peripherally involved. Maybe the SM is using them, or maybe they're taking advantage of the chaos (it's not like the Sontarans haven't done that in the past), but maybe they're just faced with the same danger as humanity, and, unlike RTD, who always just told us that all of reality was in danger, SM (Steven Moffat, not the Silent Menace) wants to actually show that vividly.
- The Crack is an unexpected side-effect of opening the Pandorica. While it causes all kinds of problems, in the end, it turns out to be the reason that the Doctor and Amy find out about the big problem and save the universe from the SM. Between that and erasing lots of uncomfortable continuity errors, we will all grow to love the Crack. (But not in the way that those people who hang out in front of the general hospital talking to themselves and to passing busses love the crack.)
Also, I know Moffat said the Kandyman thing was an April Fools joke, but if it's not true, can you tell me why actor David John Pope isn't working on anything else this year? (And don't try that tired old "because he retired from acting and moved to Spain 12 years ago to be a painter" excuse, that doesn't prove anything.) :) --Falcotron 16:03, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
I had a thought the other day - I think it's possible that the man River murders is Rory. If Rory travels with the Doctor and Amy through a few adventures, presumably he'll be allowed to do something "heroic" during one of them, maybe more, thus making him a "very good man", and as he's a human rather than a Timelord he could be the "best man" River has ever known. There's a possibility that the explosion is something to do with Rory, the Doctor assumes it's all about Amy, but it's Rory's wedding day too. That may be why River has to murder Rory, to save the universe, but she's then arrested because no matter how noble her intentions, she still committed murder. Any thoughts?
Also, what does anyone think about the lack of ducks in the duck pond? It seemed to be vaguely important in The Eleventh Hour, and then it's referenced again in Flesh and Stone. Red herring, or something more sinister? 159.92.57.11 09:49, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Rory is an interesting theory. My first thought was, they've already done that--Mickey the Idiot became a hero who Pete's World and then had to move to another dimension to find more saving to do. But then if someone described how Amy interacts with the Doctor as a companion (except for the end of Flesh and Stone), she'd sound an awful lot like Donna, and yet if you watch her she's nothing at all like Donna. So, I'm sure Moff could do the "Rory becomes a hero" without making it the Mickey story.
- As for the duck pond, yeah, I think the line in Flesh and Stone implies that the ducks were erased from history, just like the Davros Daleks and the Victorian Cyberking. It's possible that this will be true but not all that important (the Silent Menace opens the Pandorica and starts throwing enemies pulled out of time at the Doctor--a Cyberking, an army of Daleks, some ducks, a Sontaran battle fleet...), but it doesn't seem likely that there's no connection at all. The Doctor missed things all the time--especially the 11th--but he rarely figures something out and then turns out to be completely wrong. --Falcotron 13:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC)