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Also, we're not going anywhere else in this conversation without acknowledging the relatively solid ''Shakedown'' comparison. ''Shakedown'' the novel re-works the plot of ''Shakedown'' the homevid story, and indeed adapts a story before and after it. It's all or nothing, so what is your take on that situation?
Also, we're not going anywhere else in this conversation without acknowledging the relatively solid ''Shakedown'' comparison. ''Shakedown'' the novel re-works the plot of ''Shakedown'' the homevid story, and indeed adapts a story before and after it. It's all or nothing, so what is your take on that situation?
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Latest revision as of 13:59, 27 April 2023

Danniesen wrote: The Pilot isn't dependent in Friend from the Future to make sense.

That's not true. In The Pilot, on their way off-world Nardole asks the Doctor about the vault and the Doctor pulls out his psychic paper and says he will get a message if there's any trouble.

No, it is true.

  • In the Pilot, before the Dalek scene, the Doctor says that if the Vault is attacked his Psychic paper will get a notification.
  • In FftF, the Doctor gets a notification on the psychic paper and says that they have to get back to 2017.
  • In The Pilot, the Doctor says that the notification was a false signal. The vault registered a sick student as a biological attack.

The inclusion of the final button doesn't make sense if you don't include the middle one. Indeed, even you admit the existence of the first one. That wouldn't have been included if not to explain the events of FftF.

"It fits," Moffat says. We have an example where it certainly was meant to fit. And the most I've heard for why it doesn't fit is "the corridors look kinda different."

Also, we're not going anywhere else in this conversation without acknowledging the relatively solid Shakedown comparison. Shakedown the novel re-works the plot of Shakedown the homevid story, and indeed adapts a story before and after it. It's all or nothing, so what is your take on that situation?