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It is not an impossibility that the Clara who fell from the TARDIS is the same person, even physically, as the one who was on the Alaska, or the one we see in the graveyard. It's science fiction. Bodies get re-animated. Memories are selective. You would need evidence on the order of what we got with Rory to split the articles. You need Clara to physically drop her fingers and reveal an Auton gun for us to have separate articles. You need a physician scanning her body with some fancy medical device and pronouncing, "This isn't the same girl..." You need something overt. All you have is a sense of illogic. What you're saying is that it doesn't make sense that they could be the same person, so therefore they aren't. What I have — "According to the Doctor, they were 'the same woman'" — is therefore stronger. Why? Because it's a rock solid, water-tight fact. The Doctor said they were the same woman — twice — so that's what we have at present. | It is not an impossibility that the Clara who fell from the TARDIS is the same person, even physically, as the one who was on the Alaska, or the one we see in the graveyard. It's science fiction. Bodies get re-animated. Memories are selective. You would need evidence on the order of what we got with Rory to split the articles. You need Clara to physically drop her fingers and reveal an Auton gun for us to have separate articles. You need a physician scanning her body with some fancy medical device and pronouncing, "This isn't the same girl..." You need something overt. All you have is a sense of illogic. What you're saying is that it doesn't make sense that they could be the same person, so therefore they aren't. What I have — "According to the Doctor, they were 'the same woman'" — is therefore stronger. Why? Because it's a rock solid, water-tight fact. The Doctor said they were the same woman — twice — so that's what we have at present. | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:46, 27 April 2023
So you think the real world has more bearing than the Doctor's word?
The Doctor's word is all we've got; take it or leave it. He's lived for 1300 years and knows almost all there is to know about the universe, and you're claiming to know better than him?
We can't just speculate that "maybe he's wrong." His word is fact until proven otherwise. To your untrained mind that hasn't travelled the universe, you think that her dying is going to restrict her. He knows what he's talking about, and we go with what he says until we're given something overt that says that they're different people.
To quote Czech when I was on your side (before he talked some sense into me):
It is not an impossibility that the Clara who fell from the TARDIS is the same person, even physically, as the one who was on the Alaska, or the one we see in the graveyard. It's science fiction. Bodies get re-animated. Memories are selective. You would need evidence on the order of what we got with Rory to split the articles. You need Clara to physically drop her fingers and reveal an Auton gun for us to have separate articles. You need a physician scanning her body with some fancy medical device and pronouncing, "This isn't the same girl..." You need something overt. All you have is a sense of illogic. What you're saying is that it doesn't make sense that they could be the same person, so therefore they aren't. What I have — "According to the Doctor, they were 'the same woman'" — is therefore stronger. Why? Because it's a rock solid, water-tight fact. The Doctor said they were the same woman — twice — so that's what we have at present.
