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The Dream Lord openly calls out the fact that Amy's Choice is all about deception and delusions. On top of using both of those words and related ones repeatedly, one of the most significant bits of the episode is (paraphrasing), "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from? Then tell me, what's his name?" --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 09:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
The Dream Lord openly calls out the fact that Amy's Choice is all about deception and delusions. On top of using both of those words and related ones repeatedly, one of the most significant bits of the episode is (paraphrasing), "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from? Then tell me, what's his name?" --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 09:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
How about disguises?
-The Eleventh Hour: Prisoner Zero disguises itself as various people.
-The Beast Below: Liz Ten wears a mask to disguise herself allowing her to move around undetected.
-Victory of the Daleks: the Daleks "disguise" themselves as Ironsides, Bracewell is an android "disguised" as a human.
-Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone: the Angels are possibly disguised as ordinary statues using a perception filter.
-Vampires of Venice: the Saturnynians use perception filters to disguise themselves as vampires.
-Amy's Choice: tricky one, I suppose you could say that the dark side of the Doctor's personality "disguises" itself as the Dream Lord, or that the Eknodine disguise themselves as the old people in the village.
-The Hungry Earth: the Silurian Alaya wears a mask, and I suppose you could say that there is a spoken disguise as well, as Alaya first claims that she is the last of her species, and then that they're only a small tribe when actually they make up a whole civilization.
The only one that doesn't really sit properly in my mind is Victory of the Daleks, which fits in more with deception than with disguise, but I think the others work. [[Special:Contributions/159.92.57.11|159.92.57.11]] 09:53, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

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I was reading the talk page of Vampires of Venice and noticed this had been added by an unregistered contributor:

I believe Amy Pond is not who she says or thinks she is- based off of her changeable personality, the 'Pond with no Ducks', the fact she acclimatised so well to time travel compared to every other companion, and how in times of danger she seems more concerned with getting one over on the Doctor. Add to that the fact that she aimed that kick very well in this episode- like she may have some hidden knowledge about how the aliens work, because everyone knows Vampires wouldnt be affected by a kick and generally it would make things a ton worse for her... Finally, deception has been a key theme so far- allow me to explain:

Prisoner Zero could shapechange The space whale 'appeared' to be a starship The Daleks acted like allies to provoke the Doctor The Angels appeared to be ordinary statues, even to the Doctor 'What could be so bad that they want us to think they're vampires?'

I think they have a good point. Has anyone else noticed this? Also, the same person mentioned a rufugee theme aswell which makes alot of sense. Lu-igi board


But it's a good call. You could add the following: Amy not admitting to Mrs Angelo she's a kissogram (but that's understandable!) River Pond, the deception of the Doctor not knowing who and what she really is. Use of the psychic paper Bracewell not being human 86.26.137.154 07:09, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

maybe the theme is unknown information/secrets as opposed to deception? Lu-igi board

The Dream Lord openly calls out the fact that Amy's Choice is all about deception and delusions. On top of using both of those words and related ones repeatedly, one of the most significant bits of the episode is (paraphrasing), "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from? Then tell me, what's his name?" --Falcotron 09:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

How about disguises? -The Eleventh Hour: Prisoner Zero disguises itself as various people. -The Beast Below: Liz Ten wears a mask to disguise herself allowing her to move around undetected. -Victory of the Daleks: the Daleks "disguise" themselves as Ironsides, Bracewell is an android "disguised" as a human. -Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone: the Angels are possibly disguised as ordinary statues using a perception filter. -Vampires of Venice: the Saturnynians use perception filters to disguise themselves as vampires. -Amy's Choice: tricky one, I suppose you could say that the dark side of the Doctor's personality "disguises" itself as the Dream Lord, or that the Eknodine disguise themselves as the old people in the village. -The Hungry Earth: the Silurian Alaya wears a mask, and I suppose you could say that there is a spoken disguise as well, as Alaya first claims that she is the last of her species, and then that they're only a small tribe when actually they make up a whole civilization.

The only one that doesn't really sit properly in my mind is Victory of the Daleks, which fits in more with deception than with disguise, but I think the others work. 159.92.57.11 09:53, May 23, 2010 (UTC)