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'''Inclusion debates''' are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.  
'''Inclusion debates''' are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.  


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=== In greater detail ==
These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we ''want'' to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, ''not'' whether you ''like'' a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "[[Tardis:Canon policy|canon]]".  
These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we ''want'' to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, ''not'' whether you ''like'' a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "[[Tardis:Canon policy|canon]]".  


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What to do with you? I wonder.

Welcome to the Tardis inclusion debates!

Inclusion debates are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of Tardis:Valid sources and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.

= In greater detail

These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we want to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, not whether you like a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "canon".

An important note: the name means that these are debates about inclusion, not necessarily debates arguing for inclusion: for example, if a source is currently valid, but you have evidence that its status should be changed to invalid, this is also the place to discuss it.

Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a Forum:The Panopticon thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know from the start that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with.

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10 April 2024Inclusion debate: The works of Douglas Adams16:02, 5 November 2024Scrooge MacDuck
2 January 2023Validity: The Book of the Enemy's Biographies of Authors16:13, 21 October 2024SV7
9 January 2023Temporary forums/Non-narrative fiction and Rule 116:13, 21 October 2024SV7
11 January 2023Temporary forums/An update to T:VS16:12, 21 October 2024SV7
24 April 2023Temporary forums/10,000 Dawns crossovers (Final Round)16:10, 21 October 2024SV7
10 February 2024Validity: AU games16:14, 23 September 2024Cookieboy 2005
30 June 2023BBC-produced shows and episodes that make extensive use of DWU elements22:01, 12 September 2024Borisashton
16 July 2023A Fix with Sontarans: Fixing Fix's Validity21:54, 30 August 2024Cookieboy 2005
26 September 2023Coverage: other TV magazines features Doctor Who coverage17:01, 27 August 2024Bongolium500
14 August 2023Validity: The Sleeze Brothers15:40, 27 August 2024Scrooge MacDuck
3 August 2023Coverage/validity: DWA meta-fiction12:11, 26 August 2024Scrooge MacDuck
6 August 2023Validity: The Airzone Solution14:35, 25 August 2024Scrooge MacDuck
6 March 2024Coverage quickie: the individual "It's Showtime" continuity tags14:24, 25 August 2024Cookieboy 2005
7 May 2024That time Peter Capaldi wrote a school report "on behalf of Doctor Who"13:54, 25 August 2024Scrooge MacDuck
19 July 2024Validity: An Adventure in Space and Time22:12, 21 July 2024Najawin
14 March 2023Temporary forums/Inclusion debates speedround20:38, 25 April 2024Botgo50
22 March 2023Deleted Scenes and Rule 4 By Proxy19:41, 25 April 2024Botgo50
18 February 2023Temporary forums/Validity debate: Scream of the Shalka18:58, 25 April 2024Botgo50
17 September 2023Coverage/validity: In the Domain of the Daleks22:36, 28 February 2024OttselSpy25
29 October 2011The Unspecified Cyberman Debate06:56, 28 February 2024Najawin
11 April 2011Should we class Big Finish's Doctor Who Unbound series as non-canon?05:58, 28 February 2024Najawin
15 January 2012Reference books - what do we cover?05:18, 28 February 2024Najawin
7 June 2012Character Profiles on K9 DVDs04:30, 28 February 2024Najawin
9 July 2023Validating non-fiction00:57, 28 February 2024Najawin
10 November 2023Hellscape issues12:14, 10 November 2023Scrooge MacDuck
28 October 2023Just how do we cover that time when Katy Manning, in character as Iris Wildthyme, showed up at the Utopia convention and was interviewed by Paul Magrs?21:54, 28 October 2023Najawin
10 July 2023Roland Rat: The Series19:16, 11 September 2023Danochy
24 August 2023Coverage/validity: The LEGO Batman Movie12:47, 28 August 2023Scrooge MacDuck
19 August 2023Validity: Meet Death's Head12:46, 28 August 2023Scrooge MacDuck
20 April 2012Is The Infinity Doctors canon?15:11, 24 August 2023NateBumber
19 August 2023Coverage/validity: A Better World20:31, 22 August 2023Bongolium500
30 June 2023Charity Stories that are TECHNICALLY licensed...16:43, 19 August 2023Scrooge MacDuck
5 July 2023Validity:The universe's greatest assassin(...)12:50, 19 August 2023Scrooge MacDuck
28 June 2023The Periodic Adventures of Señor 10520:45, 6 August 2023Scrooge MacDuck
13 June 2023Validity: Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet?16:02, 5 August 2023Bongolium500
25 February 2023Revisiting fiction with branching elements and historical policy therein15:53, 25 July 2023Scrooge MacDuck
11 May 2012Material from "Sightings" page on BBC viral website17:45, 22 July 2023Epsilon
20 June 2023Consolidating all of the 'How The Monk Got His Habit' pages.15:34, 27 June 2023Scrooge MacDuck
24 May 2023Validity: Hacker T. Dog12:08, 24 June 2023Scrooge MacDuck
6 March 2023The Daft Dimension and Doctor Who? as parallel universes16:26, 11 June 2023Scrooge MacDuck
21 May 2023Inclusion debates20:52, 4 June 2023OncomingStorm12th
19 February 2023Temporary forums/Trailers05:02, 12 May 2023SV7
25 February 2023Temporary forums/Legacy validity05:02, 12 May 2023SV7
25 May 2012Iris Wildthyme: should she stay or should she go?16:33, 9 September 2020OncomingStorm12th
20 August 2012Operationalising the Infinity Doctors discussion00:43, 2 September 2019Shambala108
10 June 2012Versions of Shada (again)07:18, 1 July 2017SV7
29 January 2011BBV and canon policy07:17, 1 July 2017SV7
28 December 2009Is the K9 TV series canon?07:12, 1 July 2017SV7
6 June 2012The original inclusion debates06:53, 1 July 2017SV7
14 August 2010History Hunt05:09, 15 May 2017SV7
19 July 2008Are deleted scenes canon?03:10, 27 April 2017SV7
26 March 2007Changing novelisation prefix and a question as to novelisation canonicity04:36, 30 March 2017SV7
31 October 2012Worlds In Time not valid... Why?10:56, 14 October 2016SV7
26 May 2012Inclusion debate: Death Comes to Time03:50, 30 August 2016SV7
9 May 2010Article for Liam McShane04:25, 20 December 2015SV7
1 October 2012Decide Your Destiny and Find Your Fate are NOTDWU from here on out19:59, 12 November 2015CzechBot
14 June 2011Is The Forgotten a reliable source?08:03, 1 February 2014SOTO
24 November 2012Is the Doctor in Sympathy of the Devil of mainstream continuity because he appeared in The 100 Days of The Doctor?20:40, 17 December 2013CzechBot
7 June 2011Meanwhile in the TARDIS05:00, 4 December 2013CzechBot
31 July 2012Death Comes to Time characters also named in EDAs01:30, 19 February 2013CzechOut
12 October 2012P.S.04:20, 12 December 2012CzechBot
11 March 2011Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon?05:34, 19 September 2012CzechBot
11 January 2012Is A Fix With Sontarans Canon?05:34, 19 September 2012CzechBot
30 May 2011How do we best include Faction Paradox on the wiki?05:33, 19 September 2012CzechBot
10 October 2011Novelisations info - Not inuniverse04:09, 28 August 2012CzechBot
30 March 2012Is Dimensions in Time canon03:58, 28 August 2012CzechBot
7 March 2011Canon policy: Items on which policy is unclear03:09, 28 August 2012CzechBot
13 June 2010More canon questions16:32, 14 August 2012CzechOut
28 July 2010Doctor Who at the Proms: canon?20:50, 21 June 2012CzechBot
31 December 2009Web comics23:14, 6 May 2012CzechBot
20 November 2009The Ten Doctors webcomic23:09, 6 May 2012CzechBot
12 July 2009Canonicity of the BBC Website?22:59, 6 May 2012CzechBot
1 February 2009Doctor Who Novelisations - canon or not?22:49, 6 May 2012CzechBot
2 September 2008Canonicity of ''I Am the Doctor''22:45, 6 May 2012CzechBot
3 June 2008Short stories on the BBC website22:37, 6 May 2012CzechBot
16 March 2008Need more info on Omega22:34, 6 May 2012CzechBot
28 December 2007The Hopes and Fears of all the years22:31, 6 May 2012CzechBot
2 December 2007Is material on the Advent Calender canonical22:31, 6 May 2012CzechBot
23 February 2012Early Wildthyme books13:37, 2 May 2012CzechOut
29 November 2008Canonicity of Dalek Annuals03:10, 3 November 2011CzechBot
29 December 2010Rich Morris' comics11:44, 27 May 2011CzechOut
9 April 2011National Television Awards Sketch 2011: Canon?17:37, 26 May 2011CzechOut
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