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Well, it's stuppoded to be aliens and enemies, but here, that doesn't always seem to be the case. A good example is Gadget from The Waters of Mars - he is classed as one of the Aliens and Enemies of the 2009 specials. But he is neither. He is a non-enemy Earth robot. Not an enemy alien, or either of them.

I think this really needs to be sorted out because, quite frankly, the term Aliens and Enemies is a complete lie if there is Earth robotos who aren't enemies on there. This seems to be the case with quite a number of characters, and it is bothering me. How about anyone else? Yet, the ironic thing is that there are alien characters (enemy or not) who aren't down in the Aliens and Enemies section. I believe Atrid Peth, a near-human, is one of the non-humans who aren't in Aliens and Enemies, yet an Earth robot who isn't an enemy is in the Aliens and Enemies section?

I just thought I would bring it up, and see if anyone else even noticed. If that can't be changed, at least change the name to 'Aliens, Enemies, and Robots.' Delton Menace 11:30, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've often looked at this and wondered what it was for exactly.

It's sort of mixing two different things (or calling all aliens enemies).

Are these templates even necessary?

We've got the Category:Villains Navigation templates for all the major enemies. Do we need templates covering each season of aliens/enemies?

At the very least we should define what these templates are for either aliens or enemies, I'd suggests enemies because if we went the aliens route it would be a decidedly long list for some stories. --Tangerineduel 14:56, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe just enemies. For example, The End of Time has lots of cameo appearances of aliens and they are all listed in a long list on the template. Just enemies then imo. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 15:04, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

There are further examples of wrong use for series 5 Doctor Who, too: the security Guard is down as one of the Aliens and Enemies, neither is he alien or an enemy. The artificial forest trees in Flesh and Stone are also down as Aliens and Enemies, but not only are they non-living and human-made machines, they're far from being an enemy. It think it is getting ridiculous, to be honest.

I the two templetes should be sepperated because it indeed does make all aliens sound like enemies and clunks "good guys" with "bad guys" (some of which are human, others alien, making it more confusing), but it makes the templetes contain eneities who are neither aliens (like human-made robots) nor enemies.

Could we agree to sepperate 'Aliens and Enemies' into two different templetes? Delton Menace 19:10, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I too have often wonder about Gadget. But could we create a template, in this case Series 5 - Allies and Enemies of Series 5 or even split them up into Allies of Series 5 and Enemies of Series 5? or anything around that idea, like Delton Menace suggested? Mini-mitch 15:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)