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I am increasingly becoming convinced that our Amy is, or will become, a Tardis. | I am increasingly becoming convinced that our Amy is, or will become, a Tardis. | ||
1. The "am alien pod" anagram of her younger name, as identified by someone else (here or elsewhere, not sure), started me off; | <b>1</b>. The "am alien pod" anagram of her younger name, as identified by someone else (here or elsewhere, not sure), started me off; | ||
2. The Dream Lord query: "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from?" On more than one occasion, classic as well as new series, the Doctor has referred to his Type 40 as "girl", or "her". No one human female companion could claim to be the "only girl in the universe that the Doctor trusts", and the Dream Lord was not asking this off Rose or River. | <b>2</b>. The Dream Lord query: "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from?" On more than one occasion, classic as well as new series, the Doctor has referred to his Type 40 as "girl", or "her". No one human female companion could claim to be the "only girl in the universe that the Doctor trusts", and the Dream Lord was not asking this off Rose or River. | ||
3. There have definitely been elements of other Doctor Who media stories being re-worked to be presented in new series canon, and the tale of the Eighth Doctor companion, Compassion (elsewhere on this Wiki) who "evolves into a living Tardis", while the Doctor's own "TARDIS having been apparently destroyed in a dimensional rift." | <b>3</b>. There have definitely been elements of other Doctor Who media stories being re-worked to be presented in new series canon, and the tale of the Eighth Doctor companion, Compassion (elsewhere on this Wiki) who "evolves into a living Tardis", while the Doctor's own "TARDIS having been apparently destroyed in a dimensional rift." | ||
4. I was looking forward to seeing the non-fatal Silurian vivisection of Amy, to what he would find, but that got deferred - how did she pickpocket him? Magnetic fingers? <i>Torchwood Five</i> [[Special:Contributions/87.80.103.44|87.80.103.44]] 20:52, May 29, 2010 (UTC) | <b>4</b>. I was looking forward to seeing the non-fatal Silurian vivisection of Amy, to what he would find, but that got deferred - how did she pickpocket him? Magnetic fingers? <i>Torchwood Five</i> [[Special:Contributions/87.80.103.44|87.80.103.44]] 20:52, May 29, 2010 (UTC) |
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I was reading the talk page of Vampires of Venice and noticed this had been added by an unregistered contributor:
I believe Amy Pond is not who she says or thinks she is- based off of her changeable personality, the 'Pond with no Ducks', the fact she acclimatised so well to time travel compared to every other companion, and how in times of danger she seems more concerned with getting one over on the Doctor. Add to that the fact that she aimed that kick very well in this episode- like she may have some hidden knowledge about how the aliens work, because everyone knows Vampires wouldnt be affected by a kick and generally it would make things a ton worse for her... Finally, deception has been a key theme so far- allow me to explain:
Prisoner Zero could shapechange The space whale 'appeared' to be a starship The Daleks acted like allies to provoke the Doctor The Angels appeared to be ordinary statues, even to the Doctor 'What could be so bad that they want us to think they're vampires?'
I think they have a good point. Has anyone else noticed this? Also, the same person mentioned a rufugee theme aswell which makes alot of sense. Lu-igi board
But it's a good call. You could add the following:
Amy not admitting to Mrs Angelo she's a kissogram (but that's understandable!)
River Pond, the deception of the Doctor not knowing who and what she really is.
Use of the psychic paper
Bracewell not being human
86.26.137.154 07:09, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
maybe the theme is unknown information/secrets as opposed to deception? Lu-igi board
The Dream Lord openly calls out the fact that Amy's Choice is all about deception and delusions. On top of using both of those words and related ones repeatedly, one of the most significant bits of the episode is (paraphrasing), "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from? Then tell me, what's his name?" --Falcotron 09:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
How about disguises? -The Eleventh Hour: Prisoner Zero disguises itself as various people. -The Beast Below: Liz Ten wears a mask to disguise herself allowing her to move around undetected. -Victory of the Daleks: the Daleks "disguise" themselves as Ironsides, Bracewell is an android "disguised" as a human. -Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone: the Angels are possibly disguised as ordinary statues using a perception filter. -Vampires of Venice: the Saturnynians use perception filters to disguise themselves as vampires. -Amy's Choice: tricky one, I suppose you could say that the dark side of the Doctor's personality "disguises" itself as the Dream Lord, or that the Eknodine disguise themselves as the old people in the village. -The Hungry Earth: the Silurian Alaya wears a mask, and I suppose you could say that there is a spoken disguise as well, as Alaya first claims that she is the last of her species, and then that they're only a small tribe when actually they make up a whole civilization.
The only one that doesn't really sit properly in my mind is Victory of the Daleks, which fits in more with deception than with disguise, but I think the others work. 159.92.57.11 09:53, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
I am increasingly becoming convinced that our Amy is, or will become, a Tardis. 1. The "am alien pod" anagram of her younger name, as identified by someone else (here or elsewhere, not sure), started me off; 2. The Dream Lord query: "Is that what you think you are? The only girl in the universe the Doctor trusts? The one he keeps no secrets from?" On more than one occasion, classic as well as new series, the Doctor has referred to his Type 40 as "girl", or "her". No one human female companion could claim to be the "only girl in the universe that the Doctor trusts", and the Dream Lord was not asking this off Rose or River. 3. There have definitely been elements of other Doctor Who media stories being re-worked to be presented in new series canon, and the tale of the Eighth Doctor companion, Compassion (elsewhere on this Wiki) who "evolves into a living Tardis", while the Doctor's own "TARDIS having been apparently destroyed in a dimensional rift." 4. I was looking forward to seeing the non-fatal Silurian vivisection of Amy, to what he would find, but that got deferred - how did she pickpocket him? Magnetic fingers? Torchwood Five 87.80.103.44 20:52, May 29, 2010 (UTC)