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::::Because it's also the UK spelling. At least according to the Oxford English Dictionary, going back at least as far as the copy I have from the 70s (which is older than Shada). Oddly, although my OED says "artefact" is obsolete in British English and chiefly Australian in modern usage, my Random House American says "artefact" is chiefly UK. I'll bet in Australia they call it a South African spelling. :) --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 12:28, June 3, 2010 (UTC) | ::::Because it's also the UK spelling. At least according to the Oxford English Dictionary, going back at least as far as the copy I have from the 70s (which is older than Shada). Oddly, although my OED says "artefact" is obsolete in British English and chiefly Australian in modern usage, my Random House American says "artefact" is chiefly UK. I'll bet in Australia they call it a South African spelling. :) --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 12:28, June 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::Um, we have a variety of category names with the spelling "artefact". Can we have a policy ruling on which way the word is to be spelled so those category names can be changed? [[:Category:Gallifreyan artefacts]], [[:Category:Human artefacts]] and probably a couple more. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 18:50, June 3, 2010 (UTC) | :::::Um, we have a variety of category names with the spelling "artefact". Can we have a policy ruling on which way the word is to be spelled so those category names can be changed? [[:Category:Gallifreyan artefacts]], [[:Category:Human artefacts]] and probably a couple more. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 18:50, June 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::On the other hand, at least one article ([[Rod of Rassilon]]) is in the non-existent Artifacts category. | |||
::::::Doesn't [[The Invasion of Time]] specifically refer to Gallifreyan art(i|e)facts? If so, maybe we could look for the official subtitles for that and/or the novelization. If it agrees with Shada, we're set. If not... someadmin can make a judgment call and we make them all consistent, I guess? Either way, we probably need add redirects for the other spelling. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 21:01, June 3, 2010 (UTC) |
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If this thread's title doesn't specify it's spoilery, don't bring any up.
We have an Artefacts of Rassilon article, and a Category:Artefacts of Rassilon. But we have Rassilon#Artifacts. We've also got other pages spelled both ways, and both spellings appear in the bodies of various other pages.
The OED gives "artifact" as the main entry, and "artefact" as a variant spelling. (This is one of the few examples where the UK and Canada agree with the US, but disagree with other Commonwealth countries.)
But, before I go changing a couple dozen pages to make this consistent (and add a link to the artifacts article from the Rassilon article, and so on): Is either spelling used in the novels, novelizations, etc.? We probably want to be consistent with what's used in-universe, even if it disagrees with the OED. --Falcotron 22:31, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- I will get back to you on this, I need to go and find my Shada script book (which I know has the phrase "It's one of the Artefacts" or "It's one of the Artifacts" when referring to the Worshipful and Ancient Law of Gallifrey. --Tangerineduel 07:17, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Artifact wins. Checked the Shada script book and it says: "It's one of the artifacts." (page 38/2 should anyone wish to check). --Tangerineduel 06:32, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Why did they use the American spelling of the word? User:Solar Dragon/Signature 06:42, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Because it's also the UK spelling. At least according to the Oxford English Dictionary, going back at least as far as the copy I have from the 70s (which is older than Shada). Oddly, although my OED says "artefact" is obsolete in British English and chiefly Australian in modern usage, my Random House American says "artefact" is chiefly UK. I'll bet in Australia they call it a South African spelling. :) --Falcotron 12:28, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Um, we have a variety of category names with the spelling "artefact". Can we have a policy ruling on which way the word is to be spelled so those category names can be changed? Category:Gallifreyan artefacts, Category:Human artefacts and probably a couple more. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 18:50, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- On the other hand, at least one article (Rod of Rassilon) is in the non-existent Artifacts category.
- Doesn't The Invasion of Time specifically refer to Gallifreyan art(i|e)facts? If so, maybe we could look for the official subtitles for that and/or the novelization. If it agrees with Shada, we're set. If not... someadmin can make a judgment call and we make them all consistent, I guess? Either way, we probably need add redirects for the other spelling. --Falcotron 21:01, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Um, we have a variety of category names with the spelling "artefact". Can we have a policy ruling on which way the word is to be spelled so those category names can be changed? Category:Gallifreyan artefacts, Category:Human artefacts and probably a couple more. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 18:50, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Because it's also the UK spelling. At least according to the Oxford English Dictionary, going back at least as far as the copy I have from the 70s (which is older than Shada). Oddly, although my OED says "artefact" is obsolete in British English and chiefly Australian in modern usage, my Random House American says "artefact" is chiefly UK. I'll bet in Australia they call it a South African spelling. :) --Falcotron 12:28, June 3, 2010 (UTC)